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[–] cmnybo@discuss.tchncs.de 12 points 2 hours ago (3 children)

The Chinese fabs should be producing lots of RAM by 2030.

[–] starblursd@lemmy.zip 1 points 31 minutes ago

Even if that's true, I'm predicting either AI companies just buy all of that too. Or the US government doesn't allow the import of it because it's from China

[–] Brkdncr@lemmy.world 3 points 2 hours ago (3 children)

China will be running out of people soon. Their birth rate has been in collapse.

[–] OwOarchist@pawb.social 3 points 2 hours ago

But they'll still have plenty of people by 2030.

And if they're not as xenophobic as some other countries I could mention, they could easily solve the population issue through immigration.

[–] EvergreenGuru@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (1 children)

China will not collapse. It produces too many goods and its economy is too strong. Birth rates aren’t a problem to the point that they undermine manufacturing.

If someone tries to tell you the story that China will collapse and they seem credible, just reach out to me. I have a bridge for sale that will help you short the Chinese collapse.

[–] Brkdncr@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

The problem is they modify goods, not produce them.

[–] 4am@lemmy.zip -2 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Intellectual property shouldn’t exist. If China wants to “steal” ram designs and sell them for cheaper, then LeT tHe fReE mArKeT wOrK

[–] Brkdncr@lemmy.world 2 points 52 minutes ago

That’s simply not how the current economy works.

[–] thetrekkersparky@startrek.website 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah, but if they started right now I bet they could pump out some new adults inside of 20 years.

[–] Brkdncr@lemmy.world 0 points 1 hour ago

They literally can’t.

[–] ryannathans@aussie.zone 5 points 2 hours ago (2 children)

Old/current ram or new ram? Probably be moving on to DDR6 then

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 hours ago (2 children)

We could always just not, and use whatever RAM we can get. I'd rather have a thriving market with slightly worse RAM than motherboards that require a RAM no one can afford.

[–] 4am@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 hour ago

DDR2 Prices are up 60% as AI datacenters are slapping together whatever hardware they can get.

There is NO affordable RAM, and this is by design.

[–] ryannathans@aussie.zone 1 points 32 minutes ago

I think these are false options. If there's a thriving market for us there's a thriving market for them

[–] cmnybo@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 2 hours ago

DDR5 will probably stick around for a long time if DDR6 is not affordable.