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[–] ranzispa@mander.xyz 0 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

I'd imagine they measured metrics of other automated systems and compared with LLM and found out LLM works best.

It's not like traditional machine learning models are suddenly perfect and work in all cases.

[–] GreyEyedGhost@piefed.ca 2 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Looking at the results of the war in Iran, I'd suggest your assumptions are incorrect.

[–] ranzispa@mander.xyz 0 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

The results of the war do not depend solely on the quality of a single tool or weapon.

The US has better weapons overall and is not winning, thus it is not a way to discriminate whether this technology is useful or not.

[–] GreyEyedGhost@piefed.ca 1 points 3 hours ago

Well, having the tools and knowing how best to use them are two different things. The fact they used an LLM to determine how to use the tools is indicative of them not being overly adept at using them. Also, the fact they got a worse outcome than relying on experts, which they should have easy access to, is typical of situations where LLMs have been used to replace experts. So you're correct in that this single instance of LLMs doing poorly isn't a good way to determine if it is useful (in this field), but it follows a common trend of trying to shoehorn LLMs into adjacent fields and failing spectacularly.

On a broader note, the results of a war tend to follow the better leaders. America spent 20 years at war in a large zone with very difficult goals, and easily held their own, even if they couldn't reach the overall conditions for ultimate success. Now they are in a war with a much smaller field of activity and fairly narrowly defined goals, so should have no trouble building siege conditions to wear the opponent down, yet did it so poorly and somehow attached it to neighboring wars in such a way as to make both the goals harder to achieve and the risks to do so greater. This isn't the fault of LLMs, but it doesn't surprise me that someone who would do that would also turn to LLMs to help draft their battle plans after weeding out their more experienced generals.

[–] MagicShel@lemmy.zip 2 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

I'd imagine they measured

This is the most vibe-coded democratic administration in history. They measured nothing, and fired anyone suggesting otherwise.

[–] ranzispa@mander.xyz 0 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

I doubt the government directly manages military decisions. I'd imagine the people taking these decisions are in that position regardless of which party is at the government.

[–] MagicShel@lemmy.zip 2 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

That used to be the case, but they are trying to fire anyone who says anything they don't want to hear.

[–] ranzispa@mander.xyz 1 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

Sorry, I'm not from the US. Does that include generals and army technicians? In most countries the government does not have direct power over the internal organization of the army, I don't know how it works in the US.

[–] MagicShel@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

The President is the Commander in Chief of the United States military. His toady is the Sectary of Defense. And generals are being put into positions where they must violate their oaths or resign. (Presumably. We've had several prominent resignations — often just before apparently illegal military operations that would've been under their control.) SecDef refuses to promote females and people of color into high ranks. It's a long process because the system is designed to make this difficult, so the job isn't complete, but he had made significant progress.

To be fair, there are things he doesn't have direct control over, but those things are largely under the control of his lackeys because trump nominates them and they serve temporarily until the Senate confirms them. But Republicans control the Senate and only the absolute worst people or those with some sense of shame aren't confirmed.

Trump is the chief executive, so any government function that isn't directed by the judiciary or Congress is under his leadership. Every federal enforcement branch: armed forces, fbi, CIA, regulatory bodies, education, environment, is all under his control directly or indirectly.

[–] doctorflynt@feddit.org 1 points 3 hours ago

im not an american too and may be wrong but the POTUS is the highest commander of the military.