Do you want to awaken ancient Italian zombie hoardes? Because this is how you awaken ancient Italian zombie hoardes.
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"We've been trying to reach you about your cars extended warranty..."
Fuck these headlines.
We know this isn't about LLMs, but clearly the intent of newspapers and their backers is to make the general public believe it is.
Nah, this story has been developing since before the LLM boom. "AI" has never been rare in science headlines like this.
Yeah but now the meaning of the word AI has changed in most people's minds to mean generative ai and mostly LLMs.
Well, apparently journalists here are doing a good job and actually understand that generative AI and machine learning models pertain to the same family of techniques.
Didn’t this happen years ago? I remember them doing the same thing using some heuristic algorithm long before llms were on the scene.
It's a continuation of work started in 2023.
There have been numerous developments in recent years but this latest one [...] is a “historic breakthrough,” according to those involved.
Ah, that makes sense. Maybe i read an earlier article where they had only partially recovered.
Actual AI, learning models, not large language models hallucinating things.
Exactly. The fact that "AI" has now been almost completely associated with LLMs is incredibly frustrating.
LLM is "actual AI". I think the term you may be looking for is "generative AI".
Correct, but it’s semantics. Most people just think all AI is generative these days, and so I’m trying to differentiate.
In the old sense of the word, we don't have an actual AI yet, but it's true that LLM and AI have become interchangeable.
All AI is actual AI. It doesn't need to be real intelligence to be artificial, should be obvious. Are you telling me artificial grass shouldn't be called that because a goat can't eat it?
No, he's questioning the intelligence part and not if it's artificial or not.
Do you question the grass part of artificial grass? It's obviously not grass.
I'd even argue that generative AI is machine learning, except the learning stops when the training does so it's not learning continuously like ML in the classical sense.
Inference and training are separate in every ML architecture, what are you on about? And yes LLMs are ML, by definition, no need to argue.
So this is more of machine learning than AI?
AI is the larger umbrella term. LLMs, Machine Learning, CNNs, DNNs, RNNs, etc. all fall under that umbrella "AI" term.
Yeah, even pathfinding is "AI" but people associate it only with slop these days.
Like some Dunning Kruger effect sweeping the world.
Well when they said the Pentagon was using AI to help coordinate the attacks on Iran, I simply assumed it was some expert system with a machine learning component. But no, it turns out they were using Grok, an actual LLM chatbot. Which is fucking crazy.
So sometimes the assumption goes the other way as well.
I'd imagine they measured metrics of other automated systems and compared with LLM and found out LLM works best.
It's not like traditional machine learning models are suddenly perfect and work in all cases.
I'd imagine they measured
This is the most vibe-coded democratic administration in history. They measured nothing, and fired anyone suggesting otherwise.
No there's an unfortunate thing where AI now means you need a transformer model in some capacity. It's so bullshit now. I hate these idiotic researchers sometimes.
How the fuck did the make the training set for this?
BBQ your own scrolls
The training set would just be text. The AI's job is to find it.
"Dear diary, boy I sure hope that volcano doesn't erupt."
Does it made a load of em dashes in the text?
it’s not just a load of em dashes, it’s also a…
"The text appears to be a philosophical discussion of ethics, arts and human behavior, probably reflecting Stoic thought, the researchers say. "
Slightly off-topic: has anyone else had YouTube's algorithm pushing AI-generated videos that claim to be about stoicism but with actual content that's PUA bullshit? It's all quite weird. Even the few that were really about stoicism were halfbaked crap.
If I recall correctly, that's consistent with the other scrolls from that library that have been deciphered by different methods, so at least some of the text is likely to be correct.
Yeah if I remember correctly, the villa where these scrolls were found housed stoic philosophers or something. It was also originally owned by Julius Caesars father in law.
I actually visited Herculaneum a couple of years ago. Pretty cool sight. You can see the charred wooden beams of this villa sticking out of the dirt cliff. When no one was looking I picked small a charred wooden bit off the ground. Probably shouldn't have done that, but there were lots of these small pieces just lying there on the ground, and I couldn't help myself.