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Capitalist: No no, what you really hate is socialism.
Citizen: Why do I hate socialism?
Capitalist: Because socialism causes [lists problems created by capitalism].
Citizen: Wow, I sure do hate socialism.
But also,
Citizen 2: [lists actual socialist policies while avoiding certain key words]
Capitalists: I can get behind that.
Let me fix that for you,
Citizen 1: I can get behind that.
Capitalists: You shouldn't, that's communism! Think of all the money you have to waste when you get rich!
And that's the core of it.
Every poor moron thinks that one day they will get rich and they don't want to ruin things for their future rich self. The don't actually DO anything to get rich, they don't have a plan, resources, much intelligence, they're not doing anything to improve their life, go to school, seek a better job, learn about finances. But one day, they'll be rich. They believe this until they get to about 50-60, their health issues start creeping up, then it starts to dawn on them that they're over the hill and have no real future beyond the current state of affairs--same life, but just older, sicker and weaker. THEN they sometimes wake up and see the bullshit, but it's too late.
Some of these people pick up a modest inheritance from their dead parents, but they usually piss it away in a few years, certainly aren't going to invest it, use it to build anything or have any expectation of creating generational wealth. They buy a big pickup truck and some assorted stupid shit, and it's wasted in a flash.
The other core is "I'd rather die of preventable diseases so long as black people suffer more"
I'd rather be physically and socially secure than the 10 to the power of 42 chance I'll make it big.
Nah that's why it's called "The American Dream". The point is, we're supposed to be fantasizing about a better life in the future if we just endure a little hardship now.
That sounds shockingly similar to the tactics used by religion. And pedophiles in vans. It's weird how they are all the same thing. They all over-promise, under-deliver, and fuck you in the ass along the way.
And if you do put in the planning, resources, sacrifice and work and earn money, the unmotivated (and jealous) people around you claim you're "lucky".
Socialists are fans of socialism. Capitalists are persons who own capital, not fans of capitalism.
Call it solidarity. And cote exemple like Mondragon corp. And then a capitalist understand socialism.
Then some socialist buds in and says "actually socialism isn't when the government does stuff!" and then I say "it is if it's a democratically elected government" and then they say "This isn't real democracy!" and then I agree and point out that actually the REAL root of all these problems is the lack of democracy, and then they get mad.
Then you met someone who is socialist and idiot;
Please don't lump everyone together, you just look like an idiot if you do so
I have yet to meet a single self-described socialist willing to admit that welfare programs like universal healthcare in democratic countries are a form of socialism. Will you be my first?
That's a socialist policy implemented in a capitalist system
It's not a capitalist system or a socialist system, it's called a mixed economy. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mixed_economy
One could make the same argument about a socialist country forced to coexist and trade with a capitalist world. Absolutism gets us nowhere.