askchapo

The idea that gay marriage became legal to then justify imperialism with it is honestly laughable. It was way too much of a contested issue in mainstream policy back then to parade it around like that. The whole line of reasoning doesn't sit well with me, it reminds me way too much of reactionaries describing queerness as a "western cultural import".

Alright but see it from my perspective, it was literally the Tories who legalised gay marriage in the UK, not the labour party, not the left, not a significant grassroots queer movement, not even really a particularly strong liberal-organised movement. They just did that, despite more than half their own and half the country opposing it.

They didn't do that because they're good people. Or because they thought it was the right thing to do or any shite like that. They're the tories, they did that for interests.

From the perspective we get over here we can only analyse it from the viewpoint that I'm raising. The tories did this shit in 2013, america then did it in 2015, the timing of these things happening together isn't a coincidence.

If you're going to say they did it for a different reason, we need to come up with some possibilities that aren't "the tories were just being good people for once" because I do not believe that shit.