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[–] cecinestpasunecommunication@lemmy.dbzer0.com 174 points 1 day ago (6 children)

Sure, fuck it, that's communism. Death to communism, instead we must create a classless stateless society!

[–] grrgyle@slrpnk.net 47 points 1 day ago

You know what my eyes are opened too —capitalism is when hard working Americans get all the capital and communist leeches aren't allowed to steal it just because they're in charge.

You know what goes well with capitalism? Democracy! You vote on your sheriff, so why vote for who your boss is at work, and how many sick days everyone gets? Let's go full capitalist!

[–] DahGangalang@infosec.pub 24 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Ya know, there might be something to that as a strat.

[–] Rooskie91@discuss.online 2 points 14 hours ago

Words are just tools we made up. If fascists are willing to break the meaning of language to get what they want, maybe we can too!

Down with those communist fascists!!

[–] village604@adultswim.fan 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Communism has needed a rebrand for a while now

Communism: “Look at me… I am the capitalism now.

[–] untorquer@quokk.au 13 points 1 day ago (3 children)

And we'll protect our gloriously fought victory with a vanguard enforcing conformity to support the eventual relinquishing of power to the proletariat once there is no longer class and we have expanded our stateless society worldwide, thus vanquishing borders!

Just need to kill off done rabble rousing anarchists first...

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 4 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

The vanguard is the proletariat, just the organized section of it. They do not constitute their own class, they come from the proletariat and have the same relations to ownership of the Means of Production. The vanguard is not to "relinquish power," but instead raise up the level of political education of the rest of the proletariat to their level.

[–] untorquer@quokk.au 1 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Thats objectively an elevated class imbued with power over others.

I know it's hard but you really gotta question whether what you're reading is absurd in context. If it is, it's possible it's sarcasm.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 2 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (1 children)

Managers are objectively not an elevated class, assuming they have the same relations to ownership of the means of production, in Marxist analysis. You don't need to read Capital for this, Marx's Conspectus of Bakunin's Statism and Anarchy makes Marx's position explicit:

Marx responding to Bakunin

Will the entire proletariat perhaps stand at the head of the government?

In a trade union, for example, does the whole union form its executive committee? Will all division of labour in the factory, and the various functions that correspond to this, cease? And in Bakunin’s constitution, will all ‘from bottom to top’ be ‘at the top’? Then there will certainly be no one ‘at the bottom.’ Will all members of the commune simultaneously manage the interests of its territory? Then there will be no distinction between commune and territory.

The Germans number around forty million. Will for example all forty million be member of the government?

Certainly! Since the whole thing begins with the self-government of the commune.

The whole people will govern, and there will be no governed.

If a man rules himself, he does not do so on this principle, for he is after all himself and no other.

Then there will be no government and no state, but if there is a state, there will be both governors and slaves.

i.e. only if class rule has disappeared, and there is no state in the present political sense.

This dilemma is simply solved in the Marxists’ theory. By people’s government they understand (i.e. Bakunin) the government of the people by means of a small number of leaders, chosen (elected) by the people.

Asine! This is democratic twaddle, political drivel. Election is a political form present in the smallest Russian commune and artel. The character of the election does not depend on this name, but on the economic foundation, the economic situation of the voters, and as soon as the functions have ceased to be political ones, there exists 1) no government function, 2) the distribution of the general functions has become a business matter, that gives no one domination, 3) election has nothing of its present political character.

The universal suffrage of the whole people…

Such a thing as the whole people in today’s sense is a chimera…

…in the election of people’s representatives and rulers of the state — that is the last word of the Marxists, as also of the democratic school — [is] a lie, behind which is concealed the despotism of the governing minority, and only the more dangerously in so far as it appears as expression of the so-called people’s will.

With collective ownership the so-called people’s will vanishes, to make way for the real will of the cooperative.

So the result is: guidance of the great majority of the people by a privileged minority. But this minority, say the Marxists…

Where?

…will consist of workers. Certainly, with your permission, of former workers, who however, as soon as they have become representatives or governors of the people, cease to be workers…

As little as a factory owner today ceases to be a capitalist if he becomes a municipal councillor…

…and look down on the whole common workers’ world from the height of the state. They will no longer represent the people, but themselves and their pretensions to people’s government. Anyone who can doubt this knows nothing of the nature of men.

If Mr. Bakunin only knew something about the position of a manager in a workers’ cooperative factory, all his dreams of domination would go to the devil. He should have asked himself what form the administrative function can take on the basis of this workers’ state, if he wants to call it that.

Power and hierarchy is not class. Class is a specific relation to ownership of the means of production. Principals and teachers are both proletarian, yet the principal's job responsibility is in managing teachers, while the teacher's job is to educate. Administrative labor is socially necessary and compensated in wages, not via ownership and entitlement to the profits of accumulation and exploitation.

Your condescension is undue. You are free to take issue with administration and managerial labor, but to conflate those with class is a horrendous misreading of class dynamics and muddies the water when discussing Marxism and anarchism.

[–] untorquer@quokk.au 1 points 11 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 2 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

You were attacking the idea of a vanguard as has been utilized in Marxist-led revolutions.

[–] untorquer@quokk.au -1 points 10 hours ago
[–] Johnny_Arson@hexbear.net 11 points 1 day ago

Nobody:

You with sectarian ragebait:

[–] cecinestpasunecommunication@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I said classless stateless society, not multi level marketing scam.

[–] untorquer@quokk.au 1 points 12 hours ago

Look, you just need to build your downstream. I take your bribes and give you some power. Then your downstream bribes you for parts of it. The more downstream you have the more bribes you get. With no borders, the whole world can be your downstream. It's not upper and lower class, it's upstream and downstream! See? Classless.

[–] Tiger666@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] matthurtme@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago (2 children)
[–] cecinestpasunecommunication@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (6 children)

The thing where a warlord tells you what to do? No, death to anarchy, instead let's have a society where hierarchies are abolished and org charts are all rhizomatic and voluntary, with vigilant critiques of power differential with an eye to equalizing them as much as possible?

[–] matthurtme@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

Anarchy is a society completely free from government, coercive authority, or imposed hierarchies. While it is popularly misunderstood to mean chaos or lawlessness, it actually advocates for a system based on voluntary cooperation, self-organization, and mutual aid among individual

[–] vala@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 21 hours ago

Instance checks out

[–] matthurtme@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Sorry, what do you think anarchy is? Because what you're describing, no hierarchal society, voluntary... Uhh, THAT'S the definition of anarchy. Why do so many people think anarchism is just synonymous with chaos? That's just called chaos.

[–] vala@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 21 hours ago

Homie is literally posting from an anarchist instance. This is satire lol.

[–] goedel@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] Not_mikey@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I needed to test some aerodynamics stuff.

[–] Tiger666@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 day ago

What?!? Are you ok comrade?

[–] diffaldo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 day ago

Sounds good, count me in!

[–] goedel@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 1 day ago (3 children)
[–] matthurtme@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Anarchy is a society completely free from government, coercive authority, or imposed hierarchies. While it is popularly misunderstood to mean chaos or lawlessness, it actually advocates for a system based on voluntary cooperation, self-organization, and mutual aid among individual

[–] Phantaloons@piefed.zip 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Bad news: opiates and fentanyl

This is usually my clench-point with anarchy. Yeaaaah, but... man, should we really have heroin in the 7/11 snack isle?

Libertarians: YEP!

wait, man, fuck. I get education and healthcare... kinda fixes this, but... does it, tho?

[–] goedel@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

how does 711 operate in a stateless classless society to begin with?

[–] Phantaloons@piefed.zip 1 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Armed militias and unchecked gangs of armed thugs hired for enforcement and security.

Then again, we're both thinking way too far ahead. Who's producing medicine and opiates in an anarchist society?

[–] matthurtme@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Anarchy is a society completely free from government, coercive authority, or imposed hierarchies. While it is popularly misunderstood to mean chaos or lawlessness, it actually advocates for a system based on voluntary cooperation, self-organization, and mutual aid among individual

[–] goedel@discuss.tchncs.de -1 points 1 day ago (2 children)

in a classless society, how can anyone employ anyone else? I think you're lost, and you should wander back to a liberal conclave

[–] matthurtme@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Anarchy is a society completely free from government, coercive authority, or imposed hierarchies. While it is popularly misunderstood to mean chaos or lawlessness, it actually advocates for a system based on voluntary cooperation, self-organization, and mutual aid among individual

[–] Phantaloons@piefed.zip 1 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

I don't believe the entire world can work on the honor system, but I would agree were it possible. There will always be some dude in 300 trying to step on the other 299.

[–] matthurtme@lemmy.world 1 points 22 hours ago

Maybe. Never know until it's tried.

[–] Phantaloons@piefed.zip 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

In a classless society, how is anyone cared for if no one has the intrinsic motivation to do so? Because it's the nice thing to do? Lmao.

The main issue with anarchism is that absolute freedom for you is a double-edged battle-axe. It assumes all people are good and trustworthy without any guardrails if they aren't.

[–] A404@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 15 hours ago

The main issue with anarchism is that absolute freedom for you is a double-edged battle-axe. It assumes all people are good and trustworthy without any guardrails if they aren’t.

The current system is biased towards bad people getting into power. History is full of wars and genocides because we concentrate power into the hands of the few. If everyone had equal power, bad actors couldn't do nearly as much damage as they would if they held state power.

[–] matthurtme@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

At least if anarchy were able to work there would be no "leaders" at all