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Rightwing PM Giorgia Meloni has demanded councils register only biological parents on birth certificates, leaving partners in legal limbo

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[-] Cylusthevirus@kbin.social 103 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The fuck is going on over there Italy? I know the USA's a dumpster fire but are you guys like ... trying to be the European equivalent of Mississippi?

[-] ikiru@lemmy.ml 73 points 1 year ago

They elected a fascist.

[-] SSUPII@sopuli.xyz 68 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

We have a massively growing right wing due to people finding little answers from the center-right. Left wing is a minority, and the only time a major center-left party went to power it was a split power with a right wing party that months later voluntarily sabotaged its own position of power just so the center-left party was not in power anymore. We went into technical government, during COVID.

What the people want to hear is increased wages, lower gas prices and less taxes. Yet, they vote "the queen of the traditional family" (almost actual quote) and now we have a prime minister that has cut welfare for the unemployed and reverting rights. But hey, they want to implement minimum wage I guess.

Still, you can't get away with cutting welfare like that. We have places like Naples almost rioting.

Connationals, I beg you, go vote. Don't let this happen so often...

[-] Blake@feddit.uk 23 points 1 year ago

Voting is NOT the way out of the situation that we’re in. You should still vote but it’s critical to understand that the absolute best that voting can achieve is the lesser evil.

If we want a solution that is actually good, we need to a fundamental change in the structure of society that can only happen outside of traditional electoral politics.

The structure fundamentally responsible for our problems - unequal distribution of resources and labour and the concentration of wealth into the hands of a very, very small minority (100 individuals have more wealth than an entire continent of ~1,460,000,000 people) - is the same one which completely dominates the outcome of elections.

Money decides who can run a campaign, buy support, pay for smear campaigns, control the media narrative, dominate the conversation by astroturfing social media, etc. etc. The system is so fundamentally controlled by money that there is absolutely no way to beat it using the rules of that very same system.

We need to build alternative systems that work outside of capitalism, for example, mutual aid (helping/supporting someone in return for their help/support in future), establishing co-operatives for food, housing, etc. to meet our needs, and establishing networks of support built on trust, mutual respect, and solidarity. Then we can withdraw our labour from capitalism entirely, causing it to collapse, and form the structure of a new society in the shell of the old.

Only by building an alternative to the system, can we truly make things better.

Only by knowing that voting can’t build that alternative, we realise that means we need to take action beyond voting.

[-] explodicle@local106.com 4 points 1 year ago

Very eloquently said!

[-] polskilumalo@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 1 year ago

I have an idea, fostering a labour movement and radicalizing the proletariat through the use of a vanguard party so that conditions for a, let's say, revolutionary change can have place.

How about that?

Also, despite how great co-operatives and mutual aid are they still work within a capitalist society and economy. They cannot be used as a band aid end all be all solution but a furthering force for the overthrow of capital and establishment of socialism.

Also, please do not repeat the mistakes of the Paris Commune. We cannot just detach from capitalism so peacfuly. The bourgeoisie will send death squads and paramilitary groups to anythint they consider remotely dangerous to their power.

So be ready to establish a people's militia.

[-] loutr@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 year ago

There's no minimum wage in Italy?

[-] SSUPII@sopuli.xyz 22 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Nope. It was an optional complex system where organizations would sign deals to pay workers at least specific amounts if those workers are in particular fields.

Here is the thing. A major issue in Italy is "dark labor" ("lavoro a nero"), that essentially means working without signing a contract (so you are without any worker protection), making it not known to the state you are working and so evading taxes. In the current state adding minimum wage now adds a real chance to only fuel this terrible practice.

[-] Robaque@feddit.it 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

There's no statutory min wage

[-] Hamster42@feddit.it 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

massively growing right wing

They have the same numbers than last election, they won thanks to the low turnout. They are still the minority in Italy.

The majority just don't care, that's even worse

[-] fushuan@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I've said this for my country and I'll say it again, if you don't vote, you are effectively voting the winning party. It's your right, but don't you fucking dare complain later .

(not you you, them).

Right!? I don't get it. Why aren't we so far beyond this by now? This was shit that should have been solved ages ago yet here we are having the same goddamn discussions decade after decade. Let's just collectively grow the fuck up already. I just don't get it. I just don't. Fuck these people.

[-] RedWizard@lemmygrad.ml 9 points 1 year ago

Didn't you know? It's the 20s all over again. Musolini came into power in 1922. Welcome to the 100 year backslide.

[-] singularity@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago

Then let's better skip the 30s and 40s...

[-] veganpizza69@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

They elected a fascist party and leader.

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