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Enshittification
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What is enshittification?
The phenomenon of online platforms gradually degrading the quality of their services, often by promoting advertisements and sponsored content, in order to increase profits. (Cory Doctorow, 2022, extracted from Wikitionary) source
The lifecycle of Big Internet
We discuss how predatory big tech platforms live and die by luring people in and then decaying for profit.
Embrace, extend and extinguish
We also discuss how naturally open technologies like the Fediverse can be susceptible to corporate takeovers, rugpulls and subsequent enshittification.
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F-Droid was a huge problem for security. I hate Google more than anyone, but they're totally right to make side-loading more difficult (they're not making it impossible). F-Droid lets software get abandoned with no warning. It offers no curation (you're taking the same risks as with the AUR or Flakes on Nix). The Play Store version of software is often better (sometimes they do add ads, but I'd rather have ads and support a dev along with peace of mind). -A dev making ad revenue in a curated repo is also a lot less likely to abandon a project.
Oh hey, it's the owner of the linuxsucks .world community who says he hates "FOSS commie garbage" while not only using, but moderating a community on a FOSS platform.
Does F-Droid have some security tradeoffs in its operation? Absolutely. But you're conflating a security decision with a market control decision. The restrictions target alternative app stores and payment systems that compete with Google Play, not specifically malware vectors. Google has a $300 billion advertising business and a vested interest in controlling what software reaches Android users. Using security as the justification for that control doesn't make the control itself a security measure. This is the same playbook being used to push surveillance. The goal is monitoring and data gathering while it's proclaimed to "protect children." It's using a moral panic while being used while the technical literacy is severely lacking. Something you're familiar with in our other thread, I'm sure.
Plainly false. F-Droid requires apps to be open source and explicitly flags known anti-features like tracking, ads, and non-free dependencies. Just because you prefer ads doesn't mean its not curation.
Sometimes true and sometimes the opposite. Play Store versions of apps frequently include tracking SDKs, mandatory account creation, and analytics outside of simply just "ads" that F-Droid versions specifically strip out. For anyone using F-Droid because they're trying to avoid exactly that (for peace of mind), the Play Store version isn't better, it's the opposite.
Google charging a gate fee from developers to reach Android users and then restricting alternatives to that gate is literally the opposite of supporting a dev.
And to highlight the irony of "better," if this was a security issue, as you claimed, is that a defensible position when Google's data shows they removed over 2.3 million policy-violating apps in 2024 alone, and that's just what they caught? Researchers have repeatedly found active malware campaigns running in the Play Store for months before removal, including banking trojans and spyware with millions of downloads. The stuff that slips through aren't just one or two here and there. It's a constant trough on the platform you're implying is the best place to get software.
The difference is F-Droid requires apps to be open source, meaning the code is auditable. Malware hiding in open source code is significantly harder to sustain because anyone can read it. Play Store apps are closed source by default, meaning Google's automated scanning is the only defense for users and whatever a developer decided to bundle in. Sounds more like a way to silence criticism and remove transparency than it is to "ensure security."
Shilling hard and probably not even getting paid for it.
Hell he's paying Sam Altman for all these tokens
Don't need to. I actually care about other people and don't like people getting fucked over by nonsense.
Oh I love this one! The guy who uses Hate every third word and call linux users names on the regular says "I actually care about people!"
Thats hilarious. You are an asshole, you don't care about anyone, as long as the trolling is fun!
I mentioned it in another post, but arguably the worst part of all of this is not that he's failing at arguing against FOSS (which he is failing spectacularly), but what he's actually trying to do is discredit the devs and their passion and effort that build all the cool, fun, and interesting solutions we have.
Standard capitalist bootlicker mentality though, steal ideas, repackage them as new products with a pricetag, a subscription, maybe an expansion, dlc, or microtransaction too. The only innovation they're good at is providing a worse product for more money.
No technical merit as usual.
I get the impression he is software dev of some sort, that is not very good at and doesn't make much money at it. So he lashes out and complains. Or he literally is just a troll.
Potentially, yeah. I saw he mentioned contributing to Osm and complained about all the rules they had to contribute. (Ironic considering he came at me trying to say FOSS and F-Droid projects are entirely unsafe and uncurated lol.) But seems like he's at least technically literate enough to mess around.
I wonder if there's a masochistic streak in there too. Looking through the profile he constantly posts and replies and gets trounced but still keeps coming back for more. Even weirder is the linuxsucks community he maintains is essentially just him. Making/posting memes, shitting on Linux and promoting windows with next to no comments or engagement...just downvotes. Yelling angrily into the void almost.
He seems to have particular hardons for:
Very capitalist, very conservative, he may be older, possibly if in the US he may be a Reagan republican if not an outright MAGAt. Which may have been his inspiration for his pejorative of LiGNUt. Which I assume is Linux + GNU + nut?
I really wonder how FOSS hurt him so. It's quite the grudge regardless of the circumstances. Or maybe a hyperfixation? Dunno 🤷♂️
I just assumed it was Bill Gates
Find a hobby dude you're wasting your life
You're wasting my time. -Mind just shutting tf up?
I'm sorry free speech is happening to you.
The people using that term most, are those that don't understand it.
Really funny to say this with how much malware is on the official play store. If they actually cared abt security wouldn't they start with their own platform? That tells you this change is really about something else. I'm not your dad, figure out what it is yourself
You're going to need to enlighten us some because LiGNUTs will call just about anything malware. -But yes; there is a malware 'issue'. It's far from how dangerous and chaotic F-Droid is. The Play Store is still objectively the safest place to get Android apps.
The stuff that slips through gets quickly removed, they block millions of attempts, and are tightening policies.
Would be interested in your technical analysis of current F-Droid security vs current Play Store with examples.
No you wouldnt be interested. You are are a loud mouth dipshit. Nobody is going to take a wierdo who makes up names to call people seriously.
I do like responding to trolls, I dont know why. Shouldn't feed you I know.
Eat a dick. If you download a virus that's on you, don't ruin it for everyone else.
No you don't. You just troll.
In 2024 650 million devices got infected with malware from Google play. Who has shit security?
Lol, did I ask for 2024, or a one-sided info? (Framed as propaganda)
If I say it it's true, if you say it it's propaganda.
Same mentality.
Some of know how to use a search and aren't afraid of AI.
You are so incoherent its difficult to know what you are asking for.
Typical reply with no technical merit. -This is how LiGNUts with inferiority complex bow out of arguments.
You ran away from every argument when I thoroughly trounced you with actual knowledge while you kept moving goalposts. Anyone can check either of our histories to see it. I can't honestly tell if you're juat ignorant or a honest to god lolcow.
Case in point, you've STILL not answered my question that if FOSS is commie garbage that you hate, why are you avidly using, even moderating a community, on a FOSS platform?
It's like US conservatives that do nothing but complain about American progress ("it's too woke, people living authentically and stuff that has nothing to do with me, wah") and tell others to leave. If you have nothing but complaints, why don't you just leave? You'd be much happier, you could enjoy Windows and Android to your hearts content, blissfully unaware.
The only difference between malware and adware is the legality of bundling all your info and selling it to whoever wants to buy it.
IDC about your conspiracy theories, and love that my software is improved by telemetry, ads are made more efficient to keep prices down, and developers of my favorite programs get paid for their work.
Wait, wait, you believe ads lowers the cost of products? In this day and age?
Are you still waiting for that wealth to trickle down too?
Woosh -right over your head! They help ensure quality and lack of abandonment (a huge FOSS issue) through incentive.
Woosh is right! Anybody catch the license plate of those goalposts flying by? You said ads keep prices down. That's what I responded to. Now it's about abandonment incentives. Goalposts moving faster than the speed limit.
But since you've moved there: ad revenue doesn't prevent abandonment, it makes abandonment contingent on ad market profitability instead of user need. Google Reader, Google Stadia, Flash, Vine, the entire Google graveyard. All ad-supported or commercially incentivized. All dead. Users abandoned.
When a FOSS project gets abandoned the code stays available. Anyone can fork it, maintain it, or build on it because the license allows it. Ressurection is possible and happens all the time. When a proprietary project dies it just dies and takes your data with it. The abandonment argument actually favors FOSS structurally.
Once again, proving that technical illiteracy of yours across all your comments. You're doing half the work for me! It's easy when you use common capitalist cuck tactics like moving goalposts and just stating easily verifiable facts so confidently incorrectly.
Your trolling is slipping into comedy, you should be careful.
They say the bandit that killed his pa was named Foss McGee.