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Secure messaging is about much more than end-to-end encryption. Metadata collection, open-source transparency, independent audits, default encryption, account requirements, backups, and jurisdiction all influence how private a messaging platform actually is. This comparison examines the major privacy-focused messaging apps and discusses the trade-offs each one makes instead of trying to crown a single "best" option.

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[–] Zachariah@lemmy.world 25 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (4 children)

THE FULL SCORECARD

Rank App Score Verdict
1 Cwtch +21 Zero compromise
2 Briar +21 Zero compromise
3 SimpleX Chat +11 High privacy
4 Threema +9 Strong privacy
5 Session +8 Strong privacy
6 Signal +7 Pragmatic standard
7 Wire +4 Moderate
8 Matrix +3 Moderate
9 iMessage -7 Poor
10 WhatsApp -11 Avoid for sensitive use
11 Viber -13 Avoid
12 Telegram -14 Avoid despite reputation
13 Discord -15 Public chats only
14 RCS / SMS -21 Zero protection
[–] tal@lemmy.today 5 points 19 hours ago

A comparison of messaging systems that doesn't list XMPP?

[–] LincolnsDogFido@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I use SimpleX and one of the features I really like is the self-destruct code. You can have one pin that allows you to open your chats like normal, but if you input a self-destruct code instead the app opens like normal but deletes all information in the background and wipes your profile. All the user sees is an empty profile and empty chat history.

So if you're at a protest or something and MUST have your phone, you still have a safeguard against communication snooping. Say your phone is confiscated and they obtain your device lock, there's nothing they can do about the self-destruct code. "I just downloaded the app in case I ever needed to use it for sensitive data with my wife, but we never ended up using it."

I do wish that they allowed keypad scrambling though. Even stock Android allows lockscreen pinpad scrambling to avoid fingerprint code hinting.

[–] Zachariah@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

does it also have a deadman switch

[–] LincolnsDogFido@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Not sure what you mean, but you can set it to immediately lock when the device is locked. So all it takes is for the screen to sleep or manually lock the phone.

I set mine to immediately lock but there's options for 5, 10, 30 seconds, etc.

[–] Zachariah@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It would be an auto-self destruct if you take more than X amount of days between successfully entering a code. So, like, if you died, it’d wipe itself after a certain number of days automatically.

[–] LincolnsDogFido@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 day ago

Ah, not to my knowledge. But for me, considering everything is locally encrypted, thats sufficient. I'd imagine that the prospect of accidentally wiping the contents with an incorrect passcode would delay any attempts to crack it.

[–] akwd169@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Signal no longer requires a phone number afaik

[–] Zachariah@lemmy.world 4 points 18 hours ago (1 children)
[–] akwd169@sh.itjust.works 2 points 6 hours ago

Your right, problem is ive been hearing about how theyre going to remove the phone number requirement for years now, apparently:

2020:Signal is actively working on removing the phone number requirement. It's a hard... | Hacker News

2024:Signal's Adding Support for Usernames, Removing Phone Number Requirement - CNET

That last one is some real deceptive marketing bullshit

Signal is removing the requirement to use a phone number for conversations

So you still need one for registration

[–] lemmyng@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Where would Delta Chat fall in this test?