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Israel shared intelligence with US of Iranian plot to assassinate Trump, sources say
(edition.cnn.com)
this post was submitted on 10 Jul 2026
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That was the statement you were originally replying too.... That was the justification for the entire war.
Any sources for that?
I'm saying there isn't any reason a sovereign nation isn't allowed to build a bomb if they wanted.
That's a justification you fucking idiot.
When has it ever been an official policy goal of Iran to "wipe Israel off the map"?
Ahh, yes. Because Israel is part of the United States?
They were sticking to the nuclear accords before Trump unilaterally ended them..... Seems like it's the US that's not interested in diplomatic outcomes.
Ok so some guy on the internet called Chairman Meow said that. I didn't say that.
Yeah, the IAEA. It's not my job look up information for you, the site is here: https://www.iaea.org/
Much of the information is in PDF form, and very technical stuff. So shit tier "journalists" won't read it.
What about the nuclear non-proliferation treaty?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_on_the_Non-Proliferation_of_Nuclear_Weapons#Iran
I think you'll find Iran is violating international law with it's actions.
When was the last time a country declared war? We stopped doing that kind of thing when it lead to two world wars and nuclear weapons came onto the scene. The way things are done now is there's escalation and de-escalation. It allows countries to back off from a war.
I'm talking about international norms and you call be a "fucking idiot". Maybe you need to educate yourself on how the world works beyond playing HOI4 or where ever you get your ideas from.
Israel is an ally of the US. Do I need to explain how alliances work too FFS?
Congratulations, you finally got one right! Yes by all reports Iran was abiding by the JCPOA. Trump cancelled that then assassinated a general in his first term which made a war pretty much inevitable. It's possible war could have been avoided had Americans voted for Harris. But broadly speaking Americans are too stupid to know when they are voting for war. They voted for the Iraq war and didn't realize that, and by voting in Trump again they were voting for a war with Iran.
If we could rewind time and tell Bush not to do the "axis of evil" speech (which was the US signalling war with Iran) and use the time machine again and tell Trump to not cancel treaties with Iran and kill their general, and if they listened, then maybe a war could've been averted.
But since time travel isn't a thing, the adults need to focus on the situation at hand and not obsess over grievances. Iran has developed the capability of building a nuclear weapon. They've consistently expressed a desire to be an existential threat to Israel. The use of a nuclear weapon would result in the deaths of millions. This is obviously unacceptable (if you're not a fucking psychopath) and needs to be prevented.
The Iranian regime has also attacked all of it's neighbours, and has targeted civilians. Iran is also responsible for October 7 which led to a war that resulted in the deaths of over 73,000 Palestinians. It's clear they will attempt to repeat this in the future. Not to mention the fact that they've killed at least 30,000 Iranians to maintain their power.
Whatever grievances Iran has does not justify the evil acts their regime has brought onto the world. In an ideal world Bush would've never made the "axis of evil" speech, Trump wouldn't have cancelled the JCPOA and wouldn't have killed an Iranian general. But that it not the world we're living. In the world we live in has Iran under control of some psychopaths that want to build a nuke.
Bottom line, these psychopaths can't be allowed to have a nuke.
Yes, and your response to that is what we have been discussing....
So it's a no then. They have ballistic missiles, but none with the range to deliver a nuclear warhead to Israel. The estimated timeline for them to have to develop an icbm is 2028. Also "IAEA reports indicate that Iran does not yet have a viable nuclear weapon design or a suitable explosive detonation system."
And only shit tier journalists are reporting on Iran.....?
It is mostly a farce, as non of the signatories actually pursued disarmament in good faith, and nations including Israel have been secretly been working on nuclear weapons programs for years. The US itself has increased spending on its nuclear arsenal by over 20% in recent years. Plus, the treaty allows nations to withdraw in case of extraordinary events.
And war doesn't exist unless it's officially declared? Wars still happen, and they are still given justifications by those who make to their own citizens and to their allies.
Because you are being a pedantic idiot.
Then why haven't we invaded North Korea every time their leader says something about blowing up the South? It's almost like it's an idiotic justification used to playcate people like yourself.
Seems to directly refute your earlier claims.......
Again, when has the official political stance of the Iranian government been to wipe Israel off the map? You don't think that might be counter intuitive to there actual grievances? They are going to save Palestine by washing it in nuclear fallout?
A Nuclear weapons primary use is as a deterrent, noone is going to risk the global political backlash of being the first to unleash the nuclear arsenal in an offensive manor, not to mention it would ensure nuclear retaliation. It would essentially be a murder suicide on a national scale.
Israel has attacked all of its neighbors, are the people who actually murdered 73k Palestinians, and the people who are still engaged in a genocide.
So Iran is responsible for their actions, but the US and Israel are not.....go figure.
Unfortunately we live in a world where the only real protection from the actual psychopaths with nuclear weapons is to develop nuclear capabilities yourself. They tried diplomacy, that didn't work, the fact that you are blaming the party that actually stuck to the treaty says more about your psychopathy than anything else.