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[–] BB_C@programming.dev 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

can execute TypeScript directly.

Did the word "directly" get the same fate the word "literally" got? As in, it completely lost its real meaning?

Bundling a compiler/transpiler and directing inotify at a source directory (for glorious hot-reloading) doesn't a language "runtime" make. Otherwise, I can create "runtimes" for any language in three lines of code right now.

unless you’re saying that Bun is slower.

Are you saying JavaScriptCore is faster than V8? Or is the majority of time in webshittery operations not spent on actually running code, and that's how bun "wins" ?

[–] TehPers@beehaw.org 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Are you saying JavaScriptCore is faster than V8?

No. Are you saying it isn't? Please cite your source if so.

Bundling a compiler/transpiler and directing inotify at a source directory (for glorious hot-reloading) doesn't a language "runtime" make. Otherwise, I can create "runtimes" for any language in three lines of code right now.

My bad, they're x86/ARM64 runtimes.

[–] BB_C@programming.dev 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

You could have searched for some benchmarks yourself, instead of thinking you're winning an argument in such a stupid manner.

Note that Jarred himself (bun creator) wouldn't push against this either. Instead, he will sell you the aggregate performance talking point (as another user did), which is why I made my deliberately facetious comment about webshittery.

[–] TehPers@beehaw.org 3 points 2 days ago

You could have searched for some benchmarks yourself, instead of thinking you're winning an argument in such a stupid manner.

Why would I do that? I made no claims to its speed. You're the one making claims, so the burden of proof lies with you.

Note that Jarred himself (bun creator) wouldn't push against this either. Instead, he will sell you the aggregate performance talking point (as another user did), which is why I made my deliberately facetious comment about webshittery.

I don't really care what Jarred says though. He hasn't exactly left a good impression with the direction he's taken Bun.