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A ketogenic diet promotes tumour growth in the small intestine in susceptible mice. In people, diet advice might need to be tailored to individual cancer risks.

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[–] dbtng@sh.itjust.works 10 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Judging from the comments, people are committed to their atkins thing.
I don't expect this to be well received.

Fiber. You need it. This 'ketogenic' thing is suicide.

[–] IronBird@lemmy.world 13 points 2 days ago (1 children)

you can eat plenty of fiber and still be keto

[–] psud@aussie.zone 1 points 2 days ago

Also you can eat none and be perfectly healthy

[–] Reddfugee42@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Atkins explicitly allows fiber and explicitly states fiber carbs don't count when watching carbs. You should know about things you critique before you critique them.

[–] dbtng@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

'Atkins' has been thoroughly debunked. People should know better by now.
I was there for the start of that fad, and unfortunately for me, bought the bullshit.

[–] Reddfugee42@lemmy.world 2 points 22 hours ago

If by debunked, you mean repeatedly proven to be the fastest weight loss diet 😅

[–] Zarobi@aussie.zone 0 points 2 days ago

Just a personal anecdote, but an Atkins brand meal replacement shake I used to consume had many times the listed B2 levels, because my pee turned radioactive yellow. It said 25%RDI, but ain't no way, it was more like 250% or more. I've never had that happen before, even when taking B2 supplements. It made me cautious what else is incorrect on the nutrition label and distrust the brand. Plus it's probably not great for your kidneys long term.

[–] HubertManne@piefed.social 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

yeah after water and calories its sorta a toss up between fiber and vitamin C but you only need a bit of vitamin C. you need lots of fiber just like water and calories.

[–] psud@aussie.zone 2 points 2 days ago (2 children)
[–] HubertManne@piefed.social 6 points 2 days ago
[–] Atelopus-zeteki@fedia.io 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Mod for Keto and Carni communities, who acts kinda trolly sometimes, it seems. And yes, I'm outing you. I prefer that to blocking, as it lets me keep an eye on your posts/ comments. Have a nice day.

[–] psud@aussie.zone 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Outing me for my diet? Right after I say what my diet is?

[–] psud@aussie.zone 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Can you point to research that says we require fibre?

[–] dbtng@sh.itjust.works 10 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I guess you are kidding, but sure. It's good to get the info out there. All ya gotta do is google it tho ...

Would you prefer Stanford, Harvard, Mayo Clinic, or NIH?

[–] psud@aussie.zone 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I mean a paper that is not an epidemiological one (as they have no ability to show cause and effect) that shows you die without fibre after however long without it

Like life without vitamin C or its precursor goes on for a couple of months then symptoms get serious and you die of scurvy

What's the time limit on fibre?

[–] dbtng@sh.itjust.works 9 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Well, for me it was about 42 years, till I was bleeding out my ass all the time.
You know, some of us are hard to convince.
I'm cured, but I'll require regular colonoscopies for the rest of my life.

I'll see you at the butt doctor when it hits you too. Or ... you could act sensibly. Now.

[–] xep@discuss.online 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

If we're doing n=1 anecdotes, removing fibre from my diet cured my constipation.

[–] psud@aussie.zone 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] Atelopus-zeteki@fedia.io 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Is xep your other account? Just curious.

[–] psud@aussie.zone 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

No. Xep is in a different timezone than me and doesn't have as good English. All my accounts are named psud or pseudopsud. I have three accounts as I have had bad luck with instances.

I try not to post or comment under my other logins - when Aussie.zone is down I just read, otherwise I'd get replies I wouldn't see for months

[–] psud@aussie.zone 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

That's pretty funny, I know it's not true though as a no fibre diet for that long has to be very high fat and I've read a lot about low fibre high fat diets that I know that make shitting easy

[–] dbtng@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Shitting was not a problem. Shitting blood was the issue.
Your gut bugs need fiber to eat. Or they will eventually eat you.
You cannot maintain a healthy microbiome without fiber.
The older you get, the less your guts can tolerate the type of self-abuse you are pushing here.
Additionally, fiber consumption has a dramatic impact on cholesterol processing. That's actually what finally brought me to the table for a balanced meal.

[–] psud@aussie.zone 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Ah, your story was trying to build up to "fibre is vital" the only studies of fibre on constipation and straining on the toilet showed fibre increased both, reducing fibre improved both, eliminating fibre completely fixed both

The comparison that one made was "adding fibre to improve constipation is like adding cars to improve traffic"

[–] dbtng@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Ya, that's never been a problem for me. I think the 'bad thing' was dental infections and a bunch of antibiotics. That threw my shitter out of kilter and made me understand you have to manage your gut like a garden. When you see that bright red blood in the bowl, you realize change is in order and start listening to doctors instead of diet fads and 'your own research'.

[–] psud@aussie.zone 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

That's what happens when you eat too much sugar

[–] dbtng@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 days ago

I would not argue that point, but ... its beside the point.