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[–] 712@discuss.tchncs.de 46 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I think it’s important to note that these models are open-WEIGHT and not open-SOURCE. Open-source would mean we could explore the training data itself. Open-weight models are great, but please let’s not call them open-source.

[–] Meron35@lemmy.world 1 points 15 hours ago

Nemotron Ultra is a open source and already gives DeepSeek R1 performance (admittedly not that good anymore). NVIDIA has open sourced the entire training process, including raw datasets and synthetic data generation. The raw data is mostly curated web crawl data.

[–] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yeah, it's like an open-source distro that won't work without an accompanying opaque binary blob.

[–] LodeMike@lemmy.today 3 points 22 hours ago (1 children)
[–] motruck@lemmy.zip 1 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

It is more a question of what hardware is like that and if you look up firmware blobs for Linux you'll find a lot, starting with graphic cards.

[–] LodeMike@lemmy.today 3 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

That's the hardware not the distro

[–] motruck@lemmy.zip 1 points 13 hours ago

Yeah and the hardware is what requires blobs regardless of the distro.

[–] General_Effort@lemmy.world 2 points 22 hours ago (3 children)

The EU's AI Act calls them open source, so that ship has sailed.

[–] 712@discuss.tchncs.de 13 points 20 hours ago

Just because a law mislabels something doesn’t mean we need/should follow that.

[–] Gsus4@mander.xyz 5 points 19 hours ago

"See, you can see the code in binary, it is open source" :D

[–] vane@lemmy.world 2 points 19 hours ago

According to EU law carrot is fruit.