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That's a weak counterargument: that was 500 years before the cruzades. 500 years ago, Europe/Christians were doing slavery, giant wars of religion, the inquisition, genocide, etc. I like to think we've improved somewhat, but it's only been 80 years or more if you count from the declaration of rights of man.

I thought it was accepted as historical fact (for decades, this isn't some new "woke" reading) that the regressive/barbarian/terrorists were (mostly) the christians during e.g. the cruzades and the tolerant/intellectual/honorable were (mostly) the muslims in that time due to mass education (every muslim had to be able to read arabic) and feeling like the chosen people (which decayed after the sack of Baghdad by the Mongols, of all heathens)

Yeah, we gonna need loads of that for 7th gen fighters, resilient next-gen green smart grids, etc. Bon voyage!

PS: we're not better than the US, but at least our political systems can delay full fascist takeover for about 5-20 years...which may be enough time to reverse it politically or to at least create defenses against it.

I don't get it, why do these guys not just move to islamic countries? There are plenty to choose from and they can live the full holy life they want there, as Muhammad would have wanted them to. Nobody is forcing him to live surrounded by infidels.

Brain drain? They're flushing them!

No, they won't, as you can see, they enjoy being politicians and keeping their power well into their 90s, it's not a factory job. The only defense of that is that they represent (badly) older populations of retirees from shit jobs.

The point is that political systems are full of old people and you're saying they should be forced to stay there even longer to "teach them a lesson", which is just laughable. So I gave you the most flagrant example of a gerontocracy to display how that is a stupid idea.

Yea, but I was thinking of socialism in practice e.g. China has private property...it's just that it's not an absolute right, it is secondary to some other interests i.e. the state/workers/etc look at what they did do Jack Ma when he started getting too elon musky for their liking.

Look at Nancy Pelosi, tramp, Biden, turtle Mitch, even Bernie...they are all above 70, tons of dudes above 80 and even 90 in congress and the senate. I don't want that for anyone.

...looks at the US's gerontocracy...dude...no.

Yeah, I think bibi may have finally worn out israel's permanent default monopoly on victimhood that made him think he could get away with anything forever.

ALL the eggs.