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[โ€“] poVoq@slrpnk.net 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

A rump EU where one or two larger states rule over some economically dependent client states in their perifery is not attractive to join, hence the "two-speed" EU might as well be called a dead EU.

[โ€“] GardenGeek@europe.pub 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I don't quite get it.

If individual EU member states want to cooperate more closely (for example, by harmonizing national standards, deposit-return systems, or who knows what else), this must be possible without a small EU member state blocking it with a veto.

There are now three ways to achieve this: Either the participating countries create another confederation alongside the EU to facilitate this voluntary cooperation, or the countries do so in the form of a โ€œtwo-speed EU.โ€, or we get or we'll end up with a hodgepodge of bilateral and multilateral agreements (which is exactly what the Union was formed to prevent). I fail to see why a small EU member state should have the right to veto a decision made among several other EU partners that does not affect it.

As far as I understand, that's the โ€œtwo-speed EUโ€ approach.

[โ€“] poVoq@slrpnk.net 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Individual member states can already do that without any problems. See the Schengen treaty or the Euro.

The only reason why some larger members want to remove the veto clause is to coerce some smaller members into following regulations that are only to the benefit of the larger countries. If it wasn't so they could just make another treaty and invite other members to participate. But they know that they would not succeed with that, so they try to force it though in a coercive manner.

[โ€“] GardenGeek@europe.pub 1 points 3 days ago

Okay, so I was misinformed, or rather, I didn't think it through enough. Thanks for the clarification!