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They aren't particularly good actors either (which is why you see them and not their character), they are just cast for their name. Which is strange, as Nolan had good casting in the past and certainly doesn't need that kind of boost, but perhaps they want to grab a younger audience?
Zendaya came out of nowhere so she can stare at a camera in the wind for a few minutes of screen time. She's a pretty face, and that seems to be all she had going for her for the longest time. I literally don't know if she can act, because I've never seen her acting for more than a few seconds at a time in the movies I've seen.
Holland made a good spider man I think, but like so many, not a good Peter Parker. I think Toby was the best parker.
Go watch Euphoria (the show you refer to as "nowhere")
I've seen some of it.
I've also seen a LOT of shows with better actors, none of whom were shoved into a ton of movie roles in a short period of time the same way.
They probably don't have a similar cult following and/or not such a pretty face, granted - but she did not come out of nowhere and she can act is what i am saying.
It's difficult to criticize Zendaya without being mistaken for a chud who is still upset over a POC MJ.
Simple: just don't bring up her role as MJ. Honestly I don't understand why so many people get bent out of shape over the actors skin color not matching their mental image, or previous portrayals. Oh no, her skin color is a little darker than it was in a comic book oh nooooooo.
They're fictional characters in a fictional world.
Its like all the people complaining about the little mermaid and how "she wasn't black!" motherfucker you are arguing about the skin tone of a MERMAID.
Zendaya has plenty of other mediocre roles to pick from.
Funny thing is, I really first noticed how little she's on screen because of Dune, and I think pt 2 has her best acting I've seen. She just isn't as good in a lot of other stuff.
Here's the thing.
I've seen her on TV shows and stuff so I know she's a better actor than Holland. But still not what I'd call a generational talent or anything. The obsession is a bit odd.
I always thought Topher Grace would have been a good peter parker. I still cannot believe they had him play Eddie Brock though.
I think he'd make a good spider man, but it really is hard to nail down that Peter Parker quality and still be a good spider man. Toby was the one I think hit the nail on the head. Nerdy, not a loner type but just not necessarily widely accepted socially, awkward.
Maybe I just haven't seen TG in enough stuff, but I think he'd be a good pick.
If I had money and a time machine, I'd go back and have them do a movie with Toby as Parker, and Topher as spider man. Have them train for a few months so that have more similar bodies to make it more convincing.
My opinion was mostly based off how he played Eric in That 70s Show. It's very possible I could be wrong, and he's too old now anyway.