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Resources to dispel Russia and China imperialism myths? (hexbear.net)
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cross-posted from: https://hexbear.net/post/6792069

I've been running into this conversation quite a few times recently with fellow organizers: that China and Russia are imperialist powers because they are expansionist. While I understand in my brain why this is not the case, it is difficult for me to argue the case. I wonder if there are any useful (and short) analyses / frameworks I can use in a conversation, because I start losing people when I get too into depth in theory.

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[–] cfgaussian@lemmygrad.ml 10 points 3 months ago (1 children)

On the topic of Russia, check out the sources i refered to in this response: https://lemmygrad.ml/comment/7072432

[–] starkillerfish@hexbear.net 10 points 3 months ago

thank you! i vaguely remembered this thread and was going to ping you about it. from your comment there:

Unless your definition of “imperialism” is just “when country does things outside of its own borders”

unfortunately this is my biggest roadblock in conversations by far. there is a refusal to engage with the topic in depth and a contentedness with "if country does thing outside the country, then its imperialist" that i cant seem to break.