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She gets to have a life after those 8 years. The woman she killed doesnt. Her family never gets to see her again. She's GONE because of this bitch and there's no bringing her back.
You clearly have no idea what life with a serious criminal record is like if you think she's going to be able to just pick up where she left off when she gets out (nevermind the lost 8 years).
Don't get me wrong, what she did was fucked up, but an eye for an eye makes the whole world blind, and it sounds like the only sentence you'd have been happy with is more or less life in prison. She didn't set out to kill this lady, even in the heat of the moment. It's beyond fucked up to shove an old lady in any case, and every single day of those 8 years is well earned, but I don't agree that it's light.
As a society we need to get over this idea that the goal of prison is to punish the perpetrators. The point should be to rehabilitate them so that when they get out they can be decent law abiding, productive members of society. A person rotting in prison for the rest of their life does nothing but waste tax dollars and cause misery. A person rehabilitated can go on to make the world a tiny bit better, and maybe even help someone else from going down the same fucked up path she did.
Its a fact that countries whose prison systems are centered around rehabilitation have lower repeat offender rates
Thank you, someone in these comments who's rational and not just out for blood ffs
Her family is wealthy, she'll be fine when she gets out. If we were using an eye for an eye she'd be executed.
As for rehabilitation, there are 8 billion people on this planet. We can afford to dump the shitty ones in dark hole for the rest of their lives. There's more than enough good people that need help and aren't getting it those resources could go to.
We literally can't, it's very expensive
I don't know about that. There's a place down the road from me that rents excavators for a lot cheaper than you'd think.
It would depend on circumstance I suppose. This woman straight up attacked the victim for no reason. That's good enough for me.
And imprisoning someone else for any length of time won't change that.
It will prevent her from ever doing anything like that again and from having a good life like the one she denied the victim and her loved ones.
So your solution to suffering is to... cause more suffering?
It doesn't solve anything, nothing will un-kill her victim. All we can do to balance things is make sure she suffers as well.
I don't see how that is a positive for society.
It probably makes a lot of the victims feel better.
The victims are dead. They don't care.
Their loved ones aren't. They are victims too.
Not to defend the crazy spoiled lady, but I don't think it's a safe bet that the 87 year old would've lived for 8 more years.
We'll never know thanks to the cunt that killed her.
Having a life after a criminal conviction in the US is not a thing.
I've worked with several ex cons. They were doing okay. The last place I worked hired a fucking convicted child molester OF HIS OWN CHILD. If that dude could get a job anyone can.
Her family is well off. She'll be fine.