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Im not, arch is a nightmare for me. I try to installiert something over pacman: ERROR. I try to fix the error, doesnt work because it needs certain shared library files... That i can not find.
But thats not the only thing, somehow the Servers are allways down and its not a nice little challange anymore. More like a piece of code designed to make me miserable.
I hope thats different in gentoo :)
Why do you like Arch? If you want the minimalism but you don't want to compile everything yourself, I'd recommend Void Linux. It's a lovely little distro; I only don't daily drive it because of less package availability than Arch+AUR, and I couldn't be bothered to package so many things myself. But I don't remember their servers ever being down when I used it.
I'm sorry for being blunt, but Arch is very easy and plug-and-play like, if you're having these sorts of issues my guess is that you're not familiar with Linux and are doing stuff "wrong" (e.g. installing drivers from a website). Gentoo is a LOT more complicated and will hold your hand a lot less than Arch, I recommend you try something more beginning friendly like Mint, Fedora or Bazzite, learn the basics, learn the "Linux way" of doing stuff, then try Arch again, then, when you have a better reason than because I broke it, you can try Gentoo.
This is not a "you're too dumb to do it" answer, but imagine someone who's having issues driving a shift stick car asking how it's like to rebuild the engine. You're capable of rebuilding the engine yourself, you're able to use Gentoo, just not now, learn to walk before you try to bungee jump.
What the FUCK? are you saying i should switch from an os i can customize to a god damn terrabyte oft blaot? I know that i COULD fix it. I know how. But i just want an os i can tell what to do and then it does that, and ONLY THAT
Why do you think Mint/Ubuntu/Fedora/Bazzite are not that though? It seems you don't know how to ask your system to do stuff because otherwise your Arch install wouldn't break. Plus I bet that the default installation of any of those distros occupies around the same disk space than what you have now.
Honestly you read like an angsty teen who read Arch is advanced and wants to be 1337 by using it, a few years back you would have been using Kali. Let me tell you a secret, Arch is not advanced, it's a very easy straightforward distro, it just starts from a mostly clean slate, but if you're using gnome/kde/cinnamon or any DE that distros come prepacked with its just as bloated with extra steps.
I know, that arch isnt hard, its too easy. I installed Linux to challenge myself. Arch WAS a callange. Now i want something New. And harder.
Btw. You can choose what bloat you want to have in your system (only DE vor goodies too)
It's easy but at the same time your system is always broke? Either you were lying there or are now.
Precisely my point, you keep mentioning Arch as being Bloat free and complaining that Fedora or others are bloated.
Fedora comes preinstalled with Software i dont need, arch too. At least some.
sounds like you might need to run reflector, and then update all packages
Well, to be honest, you're choosing the two most difficult distros to manage.
It sounds like you're kind of new to the area...why not just use Fedora?
Because i want a callange, and not a big pile oft bloat
That's...an opinion that is not backed by any facts at all. What in the world are you talking about with "bloat" 🤣
So you're a newbie, and making lots of wild claims and taking awfully opinionated positions in this thread all over the place. I don't think you want help, so just be on your way 👍
Why do i need bluetooth compatibility if i dont usw it, why wifi?
If i dont want help, why would i ask?
Because they occupy so small disk size that they don't matter and it's easier to have it and not need it than need it and not have it. I wouldn't call hardware support bloat ware.
Also, just so you know, Arch has Bluetooth and wifi compatibility even if you don't install the packages, Gentoo does not. You would need to recompile your kernel with the correct configuration to enable those for your specific card.
Arch is just as bloated as Fedora, Mint or Bazzite. Hell, my Arch is a lot more bloated than any of those. This is Linux, the system is as bloated as you want it to be, but also having stuff installed doesn't necessarily causes your computer to be slow, programs only execute when you tell them to.
Bluetooth is a fucking security risk, wifi too.
I dont care how bloated your os is. Also BLAOT IS WHY IM SWITCHING
Do you know about limited disk space? Cuz that doesnt seem to be a problem for you, maybe it is for tho? Who knows?
Sure pal, big security risks. You should learn about cyber security before regurgitating information. Having the chip is not a security risk, having the open source driver isn't either, the security risk is 99% between the screen and the chair.
My point is that Arch is not inherently unbloated, any distro can be bloated, any distro can be unbloated, you decide what's bloat and what's not.
We're talking less than 100MB here, if your disk space is that limited you should really consider upgrading. Especially if you're going to try Gentoo, because not only it requires more disk space but if you can't afford a cheap 1TB drive chances are your CPU will take a week to install Gentoo since you need to compile everything.
What is cheap about spending $100 on a 1TB SSD?
Any CPU under 100 will take forever to install Gentoo, plus if 100MB is an issue Gentoo will not work for you either. Also you don't need 1TB, and 1TB HDDs are way cheaper if you're that tight for space. I have systems with less than 100GB dedicated to the OS and they run great, so you can get a $30 SSD and not worry about disk space for your system ever again.