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First of all, is eating pork really that much of a central pillar of your culture? Somehow i doubt it. I grew up in a culture with a lot of traditional pork dishes, much more so than the average Western European country, but i'm not going to throw a hissy fit just because i can't have it every day.
Secondly, what's wrong with offering options? We do it for vegetarians all the time and we don't (and shouldn't) pay attention to the crazies screaming that offering a vegetarian option is cultural genocide of meat eaters. And yes, it is very much possible to offer non-pork options in every canteen even if you are a culture that consumes a lot of pork: just look at China!
China is huge on pork consumption, more so than most Western countries are, and yet they still find ways to accommodate their very sizable Muslim population when it comes to food options. I am willing to bet you will be hard pressed to find a single Chinese canteen without either halal or vegetarian options.
The question already gives it away: "why do we allow them to wear a hijab?". Because forbidding it is literally more restricting and repressive than allowing it. When you have to speak of "allowing" that shows that you are preventing someone from doing something they want to do. You are literally the one doing the oppressing once you start banning it. You're not liberating, you're just satisfying your own islamophobia.
Also, your own culture pressures people to dress a certain way in public. When you forbid people from going out in public naked, are you also "oppressing" them? There are some cultures where they have lower standards of modesty than we in the West do. Imagine you lived in one of those cultures and they forbid you from wearing pants or a shirt, and they tell you they are liberating you from the "oppression" of your clothes. Would you be ok with that?
This question proceeds from the false premise that immigrants just live off benefits and don't work. This is overwhelmingly not true. Most immigrants do in fact work. And in a very large number of the minority of cases where it is true, such as for newly arrived refugees in some European countries, it is literally because they are forbidden by law in those countries from working! It is common in many countries to need a work visa to be allowed to work there.
Secondly, many people benefit from social programs more than they put into them. What about children who have never paid taxes? What about disabled people? That is the whole point of having a social insurance system: to make sure people don't fall through the cracks and end up homeless and starving. Not just because that is the humanitarian thing to do but also because desperate and destitute people are more likely to resort to crime! By taking care of people you make the entire society better.
And if you don't like people being unemployed - and whether or not they are immigrants doesn't even matter, i'm just speaking generally now - here's an idea: why don't we have a national jobs program that guarantees a job to everyone who wants one?
Thank you for this explanation it really helps. I have noticed that when you explain it from a class interest perspective there are some people that do realise the ultimately immigrants are on the same side as they are and it does not make sense to fight your own class.
Do you know how this was handled in the USSR? I know there was this Hujum (Худжум) campaign, but how was the wearing of religious attire handled in reality in muslim regions? I just know it from the east germany where there was a large atheist campaign hence the people in east germany are almost all atheists.
Idk I just see religion as the pure antithesis to materialism, I don't mean to be rude but I have a disdain for all religions, I don't say this because I am islamophobic etc if it seems that way. But I also somehow think the muslim comrades should make this out for themselves who am I to tell them what to do it would be disrespectful
I'm assuming you mean the question of religious attire? Maybe this video will help.
I'm an atheist too, by the way, so i'm not necessarily fully qualified to speak on the issue. I'm just stating my opinion.
I found a YouTube link in your comment. Here are links to the same video on alternative frontends that protect your privacy: