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[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

To be fair, the EU is the only democratic alternative since they have enough size, strength and influence to not just resist outside influence, but also to project influence. Latin America is too disunited and the African Union is not at that stage yet to be as influential as the EU. For Asian countries, they are too insular and tribalistic to form their own regional bloc that is strong enough to resist outside influence.

[–] orioler25@lemmy.ca -4 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Why would I ever be fair to imperialists? The EU exists because Europeans looted the rest of the world until infighting became a genuinely destructive threat to their ability to continue that way of life. There is no altruistic element in its existence, it is to secure the interests of a capitalist and imperialist system. You are uncritically accepting an imagination of democracy that is built around those interests. Anything that isn't advantageous to them is "undemocratic." The enslaved people who they subsist on don't get a vote, neither do the people who live in the ecosystems European companies pollute.

Hmmmmmm I wonder why it'd be so difficult for people in the global south to organise and assert their best interests. Maybe there's say, a historical system of oppression that depends on their subordination and disunity to exist HHMMMMMMMMMMMM.

The EU is evil, I do not accept imperialist definitions of progress.

[–] BattleGrown@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

You are so full of shit. Tell me one other power in the world who upholds the agreements that they sign. Be it the decleration of human rights, to the paris agreement, convention on biodiversity, or pollution standards. Tell me how these are beneficial to the capitalist imperialist elites.

[–] orioler25@lemmy.ca -2 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Could you please cite the human rights agreement the EU is a part of that allows slavery?

[–] BattleGrown@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

There is no slavery in the EU. You seem confused. EU offers asylum to those who escape slavery. Because of human rights, even in the face of rising fascism. Because they have signed it, and they believe in it.

[–] orioler25@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 weeks ago

Refer above. It's tough to believe that people from such a civilised place dont know what colonialism is.

[–] Tattorack@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Are you mistaking the EU for the UAE? Might be a noob mistake on your part. Better have that fixed before you further embarrass yourself.

[–] orioler25@lemmy.ca 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I think it is genuinely funny how many of you did not even consider that slavery outside the borders could happen. Almost like youre primed to think of it that way

[–] Tattorack@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

You mean sweatshops in third world countries? So how's that specifically a European thing?

If you have an issue with those then your issue lies with modern day capitalism, not with Europe.

[–] orioler25@lemmy.ca 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Yes, you dense motherfucker. Where do you think that came from?

[–] Tattorack@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

The United States, mostly. For the modern version.

Middle East, especially Cairo, for the version that current day capitalism developed from.

[–] orioler25@lemmy.ca 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] Tattorack@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

History book. Look for Cairo in the middle ages. Or read about the journey of Mansa Musa. That might hopefully give you an idea that gaining capital isn't a unique or European idea.

Perhaps also read about the invention of paper money, and the trade of Chinese merchants.

[–] orioler25@lemmy.ca 0 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

which history book, specifically? Why are you so confident you know anything about what you're talking about?

[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Are you in the EU or from the global south?

[–] orioler25@lemmy.ca -2 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Would I have to be to have my degree validated?

[–] Tattorack@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] orioler25@lemmy.ca 0 points 2 weeks ago

Hilarious how mad Euros get when they can't pretend

[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] orioler25@lemmy.ca 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I'm going to be 100% honest with you, I dont trust the people in this community to know what that means, let alone abandon the notion that political ideology is an identity.

[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

So you are another thoughtless NPC.

[–] orioler25@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 weeks ago

Yup, you failed the charisma check. So desperate.