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[–] Eldritch@piefed.world 2 points 3 months ago

Goth wasn't strictly a thing in its own time. More of a retroactive and initially often derisive label. Even some of the big hubs, such as limelight, weren't goth specific. Iconic? Absolutely. We were all Shore Leave the day the episode of Venture Brothers aired. And he took one of the brothers to go to the club only to find out it was now a mall. A fucking mall. LOL the last I saw it was a gym.

The 2000s definitely brought about a lot of change, not the least of which lots of us had jobs and kids. Not all of us were unmarried cat herding oddballs. Just the best of us. And these days many of us are retiring. Staying bundled up and warm as we take our medications. Not exactly going to the club. Youth culture is in a different place. Literally, like, often online.

Then there was the mainstream fetishization of aesthetic. The fantasy "goth chick". You know, the one with black lipstick. What sort of music does she listen to? Who knows. It wasn't about that. So then you get a lot of unironically goth clubs that are all about the look and little else. So, sure the clubs are a wasteland.

Shows on the other hand. You still find the culture and acceptance there. Go see Gary, or anything with Andy Dean. It's still here, and will be as long as we are. Introducing new generations, evolving with them.