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Are people just forgetting it has a displayport also? Just ignore HDMI, they got greedy, onto the rubbish pile they go.
The people who block HDMI for Linux are also the people who make TVs and other media stuff. So you may not be able to use displayport or hdmi just because some rich people decided so to make more profit.
This is what I said the other day about this issue. Good luck finding a decent tv with display port! Those fuckers are rare and expensive!
They are called monitors, and yeah expensive but then you don't get a "Smart TV" with tracking and bullshit.
Nor do you get TV tuners. While most geeks probably couldn’t care less, any associated family do prefer to watch Great British Bake-off as it airs.
You could get an external digital tuners and a hdmi switch to switch between pc and the TV.
My grandmother still has an ancient tv with one of those tuner boxes she bought for her tv when analog went off the air.
My country just disabled radio and tv over coax wire and provider send ip-TV boxes.
This allows to have now faster internet, which I like.
I would use an Apple TV or a Chromecast in that case. Most TV providers that I know offer their own mediabox anyway, so no need for TV Tuners anymore.
Just told my elderly aunt to not buy a smart tv today!
But do they make 40ish+ monitors?
They do, but they much more expensive than a smart TV, even though they have less components.. Because a Smart TV is sold for less because its providing the vendor access to you as a product to all of their 3rd party partners.
I will add that you can also still get Westinghouse dumb TVs with included DVD player and USB video player, 3x HDMI and a tuner, but 1080p and Max 36"
This is big! Where can I buy one for my aunt‽ She needs a dumb TV that integrates with the Westinghouse infrastructure.
This is the one I've gotten two of for kids playroom and bedroom.. They work great, old school simple tech.
https://www.amazon.ca/Westinghouse-Parental-Controls-Non-Smart-Monitor/dp/B09QXYZB3Y
Are you Mark?
No, my name is Chris.
It doesn't matter if you get one. They are the cheapest and best image quality TVs available, and many like Samsung's let you set them up without connecting to Wi-Fi.
Basically no modern TV has displayport except for few that come with USB-C
DisplayPort to HDMI adapters are quite cheap and don't add latency.
Aside from practicality, might there be something that gets lost if you do this? (e.g. worse frame rate, quality or sth. else)
No, DisplayPort, DVI-D and HDMI use fundamentally the same protocol, HDMI just adds DRM which requires active adapters when one plugs in a HDMI source into a DisplayPort sink. DisplayPort to HDMI conversions are completely lossless and don't add latency AFAIK.
Oh wow, all that hassle just for some DRM, as if that would prevent anything... Thanks for clarifying 👍
Yes, but forget about VRR unless you want to flash a custom firmware and with that the adapter is finky as hell. I use one for 2 years now. It kinda works
The problem is that many TVs have HDMI, but no DP.
Then buy a DP to HDMI 2.1 dongle
No problem for me, but many consumers don't think that far.
What we want is a solution for customers who don't understand the benefit of DP and won't buy an adapter when there's already HDMI ports on both devices.
Wouldn't an HDMI to DP cable work then?
It probably would, but that is already to complicated for most people.
Not if Valve packed it in with the Steam Machine.
That would be a nice idea, indeed.
That's not really how it works given that so many devices have HDMI ports.
If we expect to make hardware devices that are generally compatible with interfaces non-technical users use, then excluding an entire class of common modern interface spec isn't a great choice.
It'll be fine for now but as the specs bump up inversion and HDMI changes over time is just going to get worse
Eh, 4k is already at the point of diminishing returns. There are 8k displays for a while now, but nobody buys them.
Rather, create 5k, please.
I wish game devs knew how to optimize for storage better. Let me install HD instead of 4k games if I choose. I do the same thing for anime series because HD barely takes up any space at all.
VRR? HDMI-CEC?
Ok but I need a pretty expensive active adaptor for my tv?