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[–] jet@hackertalks.com 24 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Signal is safe enough depending on your threat model

If you worry about aws centralization and outages then signal isn't a good option

If your worried about sgx enclave exploitation then it's not a good match

If your worried about us intelligence monitoring traffic then it's not a good fit

So signal is fine for person to person western traffic

Not a good fit for a country needing isolated highly secure messaging... I.e. the french government should NOT use signal, centralized in America, sgx exploits are a concern, and exposing the social and communication graph to the us intelligence services isn't in the french national interest

[–] Railcar8095@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago (2 children)

What it I'm head of the Department of War and I want my war crimes to be secret? Asking for a friend

[–] jet@hackertalks.com 2 points 1 week ago

Then signal probably isn't for you

There's a custom app for that, that's based on Signal.

[–] refalo@programming.dev 2 points 1 week ago (3 children)

If your worried about us intelligence monitoring traffic then it’s not a good fit

source:

[–] ThunderQueen@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

US law enables to government to demand a backdoor into any private company and makes it illegal for that company to disclose whether or not this has happened. It is best to assume that any private US company is compromised in this way.

[–] refalo@programming.dev -1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

It is best to assume that any private US company is compromised in this way

I would say that's ridiculous for most people, but I guess it entirely depends on your threat model... if you're legitimately worried about state-level boogeymen, you've probably got bigger problems and already know all of this.

[–] jet@hackertalks.com 1 points 1 week ago

If you are designing the french government communication systems, would signal work for your requirements?

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social -3 points 1 week ago

I block fascists and I can't see who you're talking to 🤷‍♂️