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[–] Soggy@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Are you lumping yourself in with anti-vax South Carolinans with that "we"? Because I sure as fuck am not.

[–] aesthelete@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] Soggy@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Why pick that border to respect? Do you have political influence in South Carolina? Was your state one of the handful that hasn't voted the same way in every presidential election of the last forty years? Is your senator a Republican in a district that could have gone either way if you had personally mobilized a couple dozen non-voters?

Because I sure fucking don't fit into any of those buckets so leave me out of your "we".

[–] aesthelete@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Look man suit yourself, but I'm an American living in America so I'm in the we here.

The problem of dividing up the states into red and blue America and disassociating with everyone that falls into the other camp is that regionality doesn't save you from anything. Rhetoric doesn't save you from anything.

There are pro-vaccination people in red states and there are anti-vax morons in blue states. Trump is president of all of them and RFK, Jr. runs the department overseeing disease control federally, not just for South Carolina.

I live in California and there are many Californians that were instrumental in pushing the nonsense that landed us here. Orange county is a hotbed of anti-vax morons. I am a citizen of this country, and this country is full of stupid idiots. We are stupid idiots. Collectively.

[–] Soggy@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

We're all humans of Earth too but I can only work on my little pocket of it. I'm no more responsible for what happens in Senegal than I am for Texas or Florida or Pennsylvania.

[–] aesthelete@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Eh, people that live in Senegal aren't your compatriots unless you live in Senegal.

I understand the desire to dissociate. It's the easiest option. But we as a country are still fucked regardless.

[–] Soggy@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Fuck my "compatriots", nations are made up and the geopolitical lines do not matter to me. I do not care more for someone because they are born or reside in the same country as me. The country as an entity can also get fucked, it's too big and built on death and greed.

[–] aesthelete@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The country as an entity can also get fucked, it’s too big and built on death and greed.

I mean if the country "gets fucked" you'd get fucked with it...which is most of the point.

People love to pretend to be little sovereign citizens here, but like it or not you're part of a larger thing.

[–] Soggy@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

I'm prepared to endure hardship if it means the racists of the world have less power.