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[–] Hyper_red@hexbear.net 33 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I think they're gonna try blaming Trump, but it won't work because the second the us actually pulls out some EU countries will as well.

It might work on the most radical of liberals but I think for the average lib if they see england and France pulling out when America does it works less

[–] FunkyStuff@hexbear.net 37 points 1 week ago (1 children)

They 100% will blame Trump. My dad is totally convinced Trump has been paid off by Russia to abandon Europe, I think that's gonna be the most common narrative among liberals.

[–] Hyper_red@hexbear.net 25 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I mean what if the US continues support and Ukraine still loses?

I'm convinced everything trump is doing is because he wants to give half of Ukraine away to Russia so the US gets the other half. But I don't think the Russians are biting so he isn't pulling out.

I think the us might not pull out and Ukraine still loses.

[–] RedSturgeon@hexbear.net 22 points 1 week ago

They will blame it on Winter. classic