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I think the "Victorian era" is only valid, when talking about English history.
For European history, I would use "Napoleonic era", "age of revolution", "age of nationalism", for world history probably "age of colonialism".
What about the US?
Napoleon was gone by the time Vicky came around, but "age of nationalism" might work. She reigned over the most important nation through that entire period that was industrial but not really modern yet (died 1901 IIRC), so it's not surprising she's become the byword.
Edit: I wonder if "Elizabethan" or "second Elizabethan" might become a similar umbrella, since she also reigned through a long and fairly distinct period. Probably not, unless monarchy makes a big comeback and future students of history care to label things that way.
What about 'em? I don't know what about the US. They were still colonising, so they fall under the canopy of age of colonialism.
Nationalism, because many now-countries underwent the process of nation building. The focus went from being ruled by a monarchical house to being grouped with people of the same ethnicity, however that is understood.
This describes any settler nation but also Italy, Germany, everyone in the Balkan region.
I forget the "industrial revolution" which is also a parallel era-defining development.
My opinion: Age of ...
Btw, the German Wikipedia article for "Victorian era" literally says: "In British history, the Victorian Age (also known as the Victorian Era) usually refers to the long period of Queen Victoria's reign from 1837 to 1901."
That's why I'm making all this fuzz, cause it's not universal. Sorry for rambling.
That's reasonable. It looks like other people agree with you about the age of discovery, although I always thought of it extending longer. Australia and NZ were discovered by Europeans in the mid-1600s, and Siberia and Alaska (which are somewhat geopolitically significant) had ongoing exploration into the 1700s.
I'd also move colonialism at least back to Columbus.
Edit: Although, subjugating people to take their stuff was an ancient concept, and none of the atrocities along the way were really original either. When writing or speaking I tend to avoid the terms altogether, and go with "the Age of Sail" for everything, since the European invention of seafaring was the distinguishing variable that allowed both the colonisation and the exploration to happen.
They got to name pubic wigs! /jk
We are now in the reign of King Charles III, or Chuck as I prefer to call him. We are now in the Age of Chuck, or the Chuckian Age.
Unironically, I call him Charlie IRL. There's also Willie the Bastard and Liz the first. I get a kick out of it.
Age of colonialism implies that colonialism stopped at some point, rather than being an ongoing thing that is still happening now
It really basically did in the decades after WWII. This thing called "neocolonialism" is a joke by comparison.
Counterpoint:
https://familytreemagazine.com/entertainment/victorian-family-tree/