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European providers for email aliases and temporary phone numbers? (programming.dev)

submitted 1 week ago by onlinepersona@programming.dev to c/privacy@programming.dev

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PrivacyGuide.net mostly has US providers for these and given the current situation with the US, let's say using US services doesn't feel very private at all, regardless of how strong the claims are.

I'm not looking for total privacy, but just to start being more private until the EU gets its ducks a row regarding payment systems (VISA and Mastercard still dominate and make you transparent or at least translucid).

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[–] IceFoxX@lemmy.world -4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

I recommend: "We are so screwed! Any privacy is an illusion. Be aware of this and remain skeptical."

I also said that you couldn't trust it. That doesn't mean you shouldn't use it, but you shouldn't be naive and trust it... If you want it to be secure (not private... still the same metadata), encrypt the messages locally with gpg and only then send them afterwards by email.

[–] onlinepersona@programming.dev 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

That's just being defeatist. Not my jam. Thanks.

[–] IceFoxX@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Common sense should prevail, but everyone else will ignore it anyway. As soon as I mentioned gpg, I was met with immediate opposition... Why bother arguing with people who are resistant to learning? It's pointless. So trust Europe... Hitler was too long ago... You can no longer imagine the consequences... Just carry on and wait 3-4 years, then you'll regret it.

In addition, the question before that was which service could still be trusted... That alone says it all... You can't trust a third party... Never...

[–] Jason2357@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Email aliases are typically used for account signups so said services have no way of connecting accounts. If the alias provider is at least as private and secure as your regular email provider it can be a net win. PGP is rarely an option here, and usual caveat that email is already a nightmare bad thing for authenticating accounts.

[–] IceFoxX@lemmy.world -2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Oh, I see... so the European surveillance apparatus currently being set up by the countries doesn't matter... It's only about the service providers. Pretty naive. The fact that Europe wants to surpass China's surveillance apparatus, apart from social credit (which is planned for 2032, I believe), should set off alarm bells for everyone.

[–] Jason2357@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I am amazed thats what you took from my comment.

[–] IceFoxX@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

I am surprised by the naivety and ignorance. A few years ago, you all reacted in exactly the same way when the same thing was said about American services, and it is so sad that humanity is resistant to learning and still hasn't learned anything from Snowden.
Have fun going through life with your blinders on.

https://lemmy.world/post/40527345

[–] Jason2357@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I am trying to find what the heck you think you are replying to.

[–] IceFoxX@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago

Come back to reality first... But as blind as you are, it won't work anyway.