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[Self-crit] On Haui (lemmygrad.ml)

submitted 5 days ago by thefreepenguinalt@lemmygrad.ml to c/comradeship@lemmygrad.ml

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Hey, Haui
You've blocked me, so I doubt you're gonna read this
Anyways, I'm sorry for attacking you like this, it's just that I'm often hypervigilant about newcomers in leftist spaces who come off as patsoc-adjacent because patsocs often wreck leftist spaces and I didn't want Lemmygrad to follow the same path. I hope you understand and will try to be better rather than merely be reactionist in the future.
~TFP

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[–] Horse@lemmygrad.ml 13 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

I feel, Haui is rightly trying to grapple the contradictions of how to grow mass movements amongst these reactionary masses and what concessions - that’s right concessions- does a western vanguard of scientific socialists have to consider while doing its best to avoid tailism.

giving "concessions" to these reactionaries means throwing at least one minority group under the bus

[–] darkernations@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

giving “concessions” to these reactionaries means throwing at least one minority under the bus

Chances are that I will be included in that minority. I think concession here is not tailism but rather here is a common ground we can work on and the stuff we disagree on we as socialists will not resort to tailism.

Also when I mean reactionaries I don't just mean social conservatives. I also mean the socdems and socdem apologists such as the Mamdanis and Corbyns of this world.

[–] Horse@lemmygrad.ml 13 points 4 days ago (1 children)

i am not willing to entertain sacrificing an oppressed group to gain fickle and reactionary allies and am deeply suspicious of those that are

[–] darkernations@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

i am not willing to entertain sacrificing an oppressed group to gain fickle and reactionary allies and am deeply suspicious of those that are

Cool. Let's cut to the chase: who did I say we should throw under the bus?

[–] Horse@lemmygrad.ml 10 points 4 days ago (1 children)

when i replied to your comment it only contained "Chances are that I will be included in that minority" which combined with your first comment i took to mean that you were at least ambivalent to the idea

[–] darkernations@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

when i replied to your comment it only contained “Chances are that I will be included in that minority” which combined with your first comment i took to mean that you were at least ambivalent to the idea

~~Fair enough.~~