Lefty Memes
An international (English speaking) socialist Lemmy community free of the "ML" influence of instances like lemmy.ml and lemmygrad. This is a place for undogmatic shitposting and memes from a progressive, anti-capitalist and truly anti-imperialist perspective, regardless of specific ideology.
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That refers to funny image macros and means that generally videos and screenshots are not allowed. Exceptions include explicitly humorous and short videos, as well as (social media) screenshots depicting a funny situation, joke, or joke picture relating to socialist movements, theory, societal issues, or political opponents. Examples would be the classic case of humorous Tumblr or Twitter posts/threads. (and no, agitprop text does not count as a meme. Please post agitprop here)
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When writing stuff like "lol" and "iirc", it's a good idea to try and replace those with their all caps counterpart
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- ok => OK
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- nato => Nato (you don't spell it when talking, right?)
- usa => USA
- prc => PRC
- etc.
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Isn't this authoritarian architecture and not left wing architecture?
That moment when ensuring housing for everyone and eradicating homelessness is considered "authoritarian architecture".
And let's pretend like we know what makes architecture "authoritarian."
Why is ensuring housing authoritarian? Isn't the cheapest most depressing architecture authoritarian? No one says it had to be depressing and lack deicent design... unless the dictator mandates it. No true left wing design would look this bleak and forced.
If you've come to look at a given architectural style (or any object for that matter) in its abstracted, ahistorical form, then you may not find much value nor truth to what it actually signifies. You must instead look at the material conditions that led to its creation.
First of all brutalist architecture emerged in the USSR after the end of WW2 after the economy and the entire infrastructure of the country were entirely wiped out. Simplified construction techniques using concrete were revolutionary in the sense that they were efficient and easy to streamline on a national scale for millions of people on the one hand, while being cost effective on the other hand. Whilst the rate of homelessness was not decreasing (if not increasing) in capitalist economies, socialist countries were at the vanguard of providing free housing for everyone.
In short, brutalist architecture was shaped by the material conditions of the post-war era and developed further as the economy progressed in later decades. This is simply because policies and social and cultural phenomena are not the mere product of ideas and thoights as much as the material conditions which are the basis for every human movement.
Secondly, the term "brutalist" does not give credit to what the Soviets and other socialist countries have achieved in the architectural fields. Most pictures that are publicized on the Internet picture either abandoned and unmaintained buildings or pictures that are taken in the gloomiest period of winter, since this id what is believed to fit the narrative or the "aesthetics" of socialist architecture.
Lastly, in reality there isn't really an artistic style that dictates what leftist architecture should look like. If you search through pictures of Soviet architecture or even DPRK or PRC architecture for something recent, you will find that they vary so much in colors and shapes, because it all depends on the architect's individual and distinct taste. Rather, what distinguishes leftist (or your so-called "authoritarian") architecture is that it serves the needs of the proletariat, contrary to capitalist societies that boast about their individualism.
Generally left wing is 'making things better for people would be nice'
And is mostly bitterly divided between 'cool, so let's get started!' And 'we must form a committee and personality cult to do capitalist accellerationism, only then can we murder everyone in the first group and then do the thing’ with some absolutely batshit jewels of ideology mixed in.
And the commie blocks are really in the center of that venn diagram. The party that made them was soaked in leftist blood, but the reason they look like that is because building them fast meant people got homes faster, so they were less concerned with giving each one a unique style.
Yep. They did a lot of bullshit and I'd argue they were profoundly reactionary, but the Bolsheviks were still minimum viable communist, and did a lot of communism when it wasn't purge time.
Which sounds and was pointlessly awful, but I have spent a lot of time with people on the streets, and I think that's still less terror, less pointless death and suffering.
Who are those "cool, let's get started" leftists, and what housing did they build? Just so I can compare their housing to that of the "personality cult capitalist accelerationists".
We're around. And I personally have-though admittedly not much; I'm not one for manual labor.
So "we're around-type" leftists have built how many homes exactly?
Dunno, not my department. Like I said, at least a few that I've personally seen, but they also don't try to kill other leftists for no fucking reason. So it's probably easier.
Ah, I see, there are no real examples of "cool, let's get started" leftists building millions of housing units, so you're comparing an actually existing state having to deal with capitalist and fascist subversion in a world dominated by capitalism, with idealistic nonexisting societies. That's your problem right there. You're welcome!
'Having to deal with capitalism' there it is. Last time I credit you murderhobo shitsticks with anything.
Go back to the soviet Union.
I'd gladly go to a Soviet Union if it existed, unfortunately it didn't survive the capitalist subversion attempts I explicitly mentioned.
No need to get angry about confronting the reality that you don't have actually existing historical leftist figures in power that you can praise. If Rosa Luxembourg had gotten to power and hadn't been murdered by Nazis and Social Democrats, you'd hate her too.
Oh shit!
At least it existed for 70 years and saved a hundred million lives from hunger, disease and Nazi extermination. Your leftism existed for a total of 0 years.
Damn I wonder how many people the real communists they slaughtered, the ones who did the revolution would have saved, how long they would have lasted. Bet it would've been moooooore
Oh yeah, "real communists" were killed by the evil tankies that established the highest welfare state and lowest inequality in the history of the region.
Tell me, if it's tankies killing the real communists, where are all of these real communists who build housing in the rest of the world? Spain, France, USA, Brazil, Indonesia? Any there? Also killed by le evil tankies?
Mass graves ass over the former Russian empire. The mensheviks, SR's, and anarchists who actually won the revolution whole the Bolsheviks sat back and did nothing because they didn't want to fight people they admired.
There are others. I don't actually know if you're a cop, but you're as authoritarian and as eager to kill me for being any flavor of communist, so I would like to disengage.
Hmmm, if the anarchists, mensheviks and SRs won the revolution, how did the Bolsheviks get the popular and military support? Again with your non-materialist understanding of history, I see!
Next time, self-proclaimed lefties maybe should not support imperialist wars ;)
Disengage hasn't ever worked a single time for me.
The Disengage rule is not meant to allow the last word in. If you want to force a disengage, just reply with a simple "disengage" and optionally with some neutral text on why if you feel like it. If people disregard the rule then, you're welcome to report.
I have used it that way, not had luck.
Then report. We actually take action on this.
Gonna work now. Have a nice day
Left wing is so loosely defined you can ask two people and get three answer's. In this case the poster seems right wing and for him left wing=USSR. Ignoring that, this building style is probably the most efficient way to house as many people for as cheap as possible as fast as possible, which seems pretty left wing to me
Why is total efficiency left wing? Isn't maximizing profit right wing? The buildings should be built to maximize happiness of the people who, together, decide on the architecture... at the expense of profit.
efficiency and maximum extracted profit are not the same thing
the modern western housing construction process from start to finish is an incredibly inefficient process which is designed around minimizing as much risk and maximizing as much profit to the financiers, nothing about it is designed around effecient home-building.
Making anything better is left wing.
It's not per say but you have to be efficient when you have homeless people to house. After everyone has somewhere to live then you can ease off the efficiency.