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[–] gwl@lemmy.blahaj.zone 49 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Honestly usually the only issue is that they give you barely any space to work with, a graphics card with like 2mm gap between it and a RAM stick

[–] IronBird@lemmy.world 42 points 1 day ago (3 children)

especially these fucking gpu's nowadays...how the fuck am i struggling to fit stuff inside a fullsized atx case?

[–] Skullgrid@lemmy.world 26 points 1 day ago (3 children)

the GPU is basically a second , smaller computer inside your actual computer

[–] elvith@feddit.org 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

[...] smaller [...]

(X) Doubt

[–] Skullgrid@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago (4 children)

it's not a tardis. If it's inside your computer it can't be bigger than its container

[–] elephantium@lemmy.world 2 points 22 hours ago

That's the premium upgrade

I think it's more like the motherboard can be made so small now that the graphics card can easily dwarf it. Like a 5090 in an SFF PC.

[–] Omgpwnies@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

A computer is classically defined by a device having I/O, processing and memory working together. People colloquially call the assembled product a computer, which is fine, but it's still technically a computer installed in a chassis.

However, a graphics card also has I/O, a processor, and memory and can perform tasks indepently, so it's a computer installed in a computer installed in a chassis.

At least people arent calling it the CPU anymore...

[–] Skullgrid@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago

once you attach a thing into another thing, it becomes a part of that thing, making the thing you attached it to larger. the end result is one thing that is larger than both components.

Thus, once you attach a graphics card to your computer, your computer is larger, and your graphics card is a smaller part of said computer

QED.

I am not taking further questions.

[–] Psionicsickness@reddthat.com 1 points 1 day ago

You obviously have an older generation.

[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Physically smaller, but that's only because they're still designing it to be compact, where the motherboards are designed to be spread out. We're still basically using the same setup that was used for the Voodoo VGA graphics cards in the 1990s, but the cards have more and more powerful, but also bigger and bigger.

It would be really nice if they re-thought the way the second computer connected to the first, and gave people more control over that second one. For example, mount the graphics card parallel to the motherboard instead of perpendicular, and give it more space to spread out so it's easier to cool. And, speaking of cooling, allow us to mount our own coolers on the more easily. My graphics card is by far the loudest fan in my case. I want a quiet computer, so I want to be able to put a Noctua fan on my GPU, not just my CPU.

[–] Skullgrid@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago

once you attach a thing into another thing, it becomes a part of that thing, making the thing you attached it to larger. the end result is one thing that is larger than both components.

Thus, once you attach a graphics card to your computer, your computer is larger, and your graphics card is a smaller part of said computer

QED.

[–] taiyang@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

It's the mitochondria of your cell, the powerhouse if you will.

[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I haven't bought a GPU in years, but it's absurd how they all seem to now take 3 slots.

The motherboard architecture really needs a revision in the modern GPU world. Instead of balancing it in a tiny slot, it should be stacked parallel with the motherboard and supported on all 4 corners (and possibly in the middle too to prevent sagging) similar to how the Raspberry Pi world has Pi Hats which go on top of the main board.

[–] IronBird@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

problem there is getting the entire industry on board, you inevitably run into the "now we have 1 more standard"-problem, cause the people running the standardized motherboard/case factories arent changing their setup unless there's sufficient demand

which means stuff like this is relegated to the boutique luxury market, no economy of scale to drive price down.

my understanding far as PC case/airflow/gpu size is concerned, is that the gpu's are large because of the attached cooler, it being large messes up the internal airflow dynamics of the cases/fans, which themselves were never meant to facilitate such large gpus. then you have stuff like weight of the gpu itself bending the pci slots cause those werent designed for these sizes either.

best answer imo is to just have the gpu's setting vertically, air-outflow on the top of the case, intakes bottom/sides. this distributes the weight better and opens up airflow. thermaltake has a series like this called the tower which i'v been meaning to get my hands on

[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago

problem there is getting the entire industry on board, you inevitably run into the "now we have 1 more standard"-problem

True, but, this is one way where the near monopolies in the PC space are an advantage. If Nvidia makes the change on their own, all the motherboard companies would have to follow suit. If Nvidia worked with AMD it would effectively be a standard already.

Nvidia might want to do it as it stands because their main market these days is data center "GPUs" which are nothing like the gaming cards, so if they could make their gaming cards look more like the datacenter "GPUs", they could possibly save some design time.

[–] gwl@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 1 day ago
[–] uncouple9831@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That and the screw positions. Why am I working with tweezers to bolt something into a 2' square box? (Because the same hardware is used in laptops, I know, but ffs just ship with two screw sizes)

[–] gwl@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Buying a laptop tool set was a lifesaver for me, for weird but useful stuff like "screwdriver with a 10cm long shaft" and "electrician screwdriver" (those ones with a tiny led in them that lights up if there's power where there shouldn't be)

[–] uncouple9831@lemmy.zip 2 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

I ended up getting an ifixit-style set which helped last time, but I'm also clumsy so I'm constantly dropping screws on top of the motherboard, or under it. Whatever is hardest to get to.

[–] gwl@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 8 hours ago

Bloody typical

[–] FatVegan@leminal.space 2 points 1 day ago

I was convinced that my gpu doesn't fit. There is like a nano meter in between the backside of the gpu and the case. Like the metal touched and the clip hasn't fully set yet.