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[–] dustyData@lemmy.world 0 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (1 children)

Lol, tell me you've never step inside a data center in your life without telling me.

Just because the US dominated market is wasteful and destructive doesn't mean it is like that everywhere. You buy a server today and the offerings will be the same CPUs that were available five years ago. Servers are mean, powerful beasts, and upgrades have been slow and incremental at best for almost two decades. While manufacturer guarantees might last 7 to 10 years, operators offer refurbishment and refreshment services with extended guarantees. A decade old server is not a rare sight in a data center, hell we even kept some old Windows servers from the XP area around. Also, mainframes are most definitely not legacy machinery. Modern and new mainframes are deployed even today. It is a particular mode and architecture quirk, but it is just another server at the end of the day. In fact, the z17 is an AI specialized mainframe that released just this year as a full stack ready made AI solution.

A business that replaces servers every 3 years is burning money and any sane CFO would kick the CTO in the nuts who made such a stupid decision without a very strong reason to do it. Though C suites are not known for being sane, it is mostly in the US that such kind of wastefulness is found. All this is from experience on the corporate IT side, not at all hobbyist or second hand market.

[–] NotANumber@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Yes I am well aware that modern mainframes exist, I am actually planning to get certified on them at some point. They are however a very niche solution, which you clearly should know, and often tasked to run software made decades ago. A mainframe from 1999 is not exactly modern.

If you legit are running Windows XP or Server 2003 then you are way out of government regulations and compliance and your whole team should be sacked immediately including you. Don't come on a public forum and brag about the incompetence of your whole organisation for fuck's sake. You just painted a target on your back. You clearly have no understanding of either cyber security or operational security doing things like that.

[–] dustyData@lemmy.world 0 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Which country's?

It is awfully priviledged and insulting to imply such horrible things and wish harm on others because of your xenophobia and limited experience with diverse contexts.

[–] NotANumber@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

You are really reaching here. I live in the UK but I am pretty sure the EU have regulations just as harsh and certainly harsher than the USA. Where I am in academia we have machines that are 6-8 years old that we are only allowed to use in development and testing environments. They can't be used in production because our IT team won't allow it.

There is no good reason to put Windows XP on an internet connected network in a production environment. It's acceptable only on air gapped machines. If you have servers that are too new for modern Windows then use Linux. Failing that buy a new machine.

[–] dustyData@lemmy.world 0 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Yes, the world is only the us, UK and the EU. No one else counts.

[–] NotANumber@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 hour ago

I never said those were the only countries. You are trying to justify bad practices and nonsense arguments by screaming xenophobia where there is no xenophobia.