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Does anyone have a method of deprogramming liberals who believe in the Uyghur genocide? I have a new friend who is good on Palestine but awful on Xinjiang. Very AP-brained and trusting of western propaganda. He's well-read and is open to having his ideas challenged, so looking for something well-sourced or he'd probably disregard it. I found a debunking video that came out right after the original Zenz "report" that references a 51-page leaked document released by Zenz. It goes through 6 points and shows how Zenz's own documents contradicts his claims of human rights abuses. The issue is that it's from a small creator and I can't find the referenced document, so I can't point him directly to the facts and bypass the youtube video, which would likely be seen as insufficient.

This is part 1 of the debunk:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=Ceb2B5oql8A

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[–] JustSo@hexbear.net 2 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

So many of them straight up believe the CIA/Falun Gong organ trade propaganda and probably assume the bodies were recycled and the remains destroyed.

I agree that we'd know if this shit had actually happened. But your average liberal probably imagines a Jewish holocaust type of efficiency and cleanup. They just don't have more than a smug attitude about it because Uyghur people are double damned for being Asian and Muslim.

In fact that's the thing, you can't convince a lib because the lib does not wish to be convinced. The lib doesn't care about the Uyghurs and their alleged slaughter (didn't happen) because the lib only cares to the extent they can reinforce their Sinophobic and orientalist attitudes (and by extension their own supremacy / western chauvinism.)

"Uyghur Genocide" is just a half remembered factoid they can use as a rhetorical smokebomb.