this post was submitted on 26 Dec 2025
169 points (96.7% liked)

World News

51464 readers
1925 users here now

A community for discussing events around the World

Rules:

Similarly, if you see posts along these lines, do not engage. Report them, block them, and live a happier life than they do. We see too many slapfights that boil down to "Mom! He's bugging me!" and "I'm not touching you!" Going forward, slapfights will result in removed comments and temp bans to cool off.

We ask that the users report any comment or post that violate the rules, to use critical thinking when reading, posting or commenting. Users that post off-topic spam, advocate violence, have multiple comments or posts removed, weaponize reports or violate the code of conduct will be banned.

All posts and comments will be reviewed on a case-by-case basis. This means that some content that violates the rules may be allowed, while other content that does not violate the rules may be removed. The moderators retain the right to remove any content and ban users.


Lemmy World Partners

News !news@lemmy.world

Politics !politics@lemmy.world

World Politics !globalpolitics@lemmy.world


Recommendations

For Firefox users, there is media bias / propaganda / fact check plugin.

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/media-bias-fact-check/

founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
 

Hamas has called on Israel to allow an impartial international investigation into its attack on 7 October 2023 and has rejected that it killed civilians or committed atrocities.

“The resistance did not target any hospital, school, or house of worship; it did not kill a single journalist or any member of ambulance crews. We challenge [Israel] to prove otherwise,” it said.

In the new document, Hamas said that “Western media and Zionist lobby groups” had launched a disinformation campaign about the events of the attack.

“The Israeli entity promoted a series of lies and fallacies about killing children and raping women, paving the way to proceed with an all-out genocide project that was pre-planned and aimed to erase Gaza from existence,” it said.

you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] Mrkawfee@feddit.uk 5 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (1 children)

Hamas aren't genocidal.

Armed Opposition to colonialism is enshrined in international law.

[–] SapphironZA@sh.itjust.works 0 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

If they were not intentionally targeting civilians in their military operations, you would be correct. Same as Israel, they say they dont do it, but they do.

[–] doben@lemmy.wtf 5 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (2 children)

That‘s called terror then, not being genocidal. Wanting to erase a whole people, by bombing all infrastructure, housing, hospitals, killing journalists and paramedics, sniping little children, poisening, blocking aid, blocking access to water, to food, erasing the culture of a people and stealing it to make it your own, systemically imprison, rape and torture people based on their ethnicity and boasting about it, clarifying its intend in social media, the press, the parliament — now that is genocidal and has been very clear since the end if 2023. Get fucked with your both sides apologia, creep.

[–] SapphironZA@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (1 children)

The fact that both side's propoganda is extremely agressive against the both sides argument, is part of why this is a forever conflict. They all want to lay 100% of the blame on the other party.

If Palistinians and Israelis are not willing to acknowlege they both have to sacrifice their absolutism and fanatisism, this conflict will not end.

Every other conflict of this type only stopped when BOTH parties wanted it to end and made those sacrifices.

[–] doben@lemmy.wtf 1 points 41 minutes ago* (last edited 36 minutes ago)

Whattup Zionist, what is this, both-side-ception? Both side's propaganda? BAHAHJAhwhhahahHAHAHAhahahahahahahahaHAHAHAHAHAhahhaaaaaa. No seriously, stop wasting everyone's time with that hasbara shit. You are argueing in favor of genocide, settler colonialism and apartheit. The fact that you actually use your life doing this kind of shit online is appalling and disgusting. You really should be ashamed. Now to the meat of your yapping.

Who's doing propaganda for the Palestinians? The big and ubiqious Palestinian lobby groups? The paid internet users and bots doing the anti-semitism by criticising Israel? Boy, you're paddling desinformation, borderline conspiracy theories, again, in favour of a genocidal settler colonial project.

Why does the actual victim, the genocided and suppressed people have to "acknowledge they have to sacrifice their absolutism and fanatisism"? Why is this a demand at all, as it's clearly in favour of the rapist getting their raping tolerated by society? Why isn't the only demand: The barbaric occupier has to stop genociding and suppressing the occupied and genocided people!? Your perspective is sickening.

The only party not wanting this "conflict" to stop is Israel, because there are still Palestinians in Palestine. Israel is the party that time and again does everything and anything to keep on killing and stealing and raping and celebrating it publically, like, you know, right this fucking moment.

Your venomous inhumanity makes me sick.

[–] CannonFodder@lemmy.world -2 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

But Hamas wants to wipe out the Israeli people, so by your own definition, that genocide. They're not currently capable, which makes one wonder what their objective was in the October attacks. It seems that they did it to goad Israel into tracking them and the using social media of the carnage to gain support internationally. That explains why they prepped protests across the globe (that started before Israel attacked). Unfortunately Israel went off the deep end and used it as an excuse to go way over the top, killing and abusing so many civilians. There are no good guys.

[–] doben@lemmy.wtf 5 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

Hamas is being used as a stand-in for the Palestinian people, an excuse for violence against a people that is being suppressed and killed since the inception of Israel. The only users claiming Hamas to be „the good guys“ are usually Hasbara bros (you) trying to equate the oppressor with the oppressed. If settlers stole my land and killed all the people I’ve ever known and had done so for a century, you bet I’d want them gone — the Palestinians have a right to defend themselves. What I would not support is stealing other peoples land and killing them for their audacity to exist on said land — but that‘s what you are defending, tho.

I‘ve got nothing else to say to you, as you‘ve either been ingesting too much israeli propaganda, are an islamophopic racist or are straight up a Zionist yourself. There is no good faith in sight, with the kind of talking points you vomit out. That really makes one wonder.