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This is amusing. People who give transphobic Joanne money deserve to have their time wasted.
I tried it for free and i quit in about 30 minutes jk rowling naming and writing is so ass it piss me off
I mean, it kind of is... except the game was given away recently, so a lot of new players didn't give J.K. Rowling anything. It's also been on deep discount, so they didn't give her much.
Wonder if you can see past your blinding rage to appreciate that there's a trans character in the game, and you meet her pretty early (she runs The Three Broomsticks, a butterbeer/tavern place you meet a classmate at after an encounter). It's said to be a "fuck you" from the developers to J.K. Rowling's anti-trans stance.
I refused to buy the game at launch/full price because of the anti-trans stuff, but I heard nothing but good things about the game and picked it up for a deep discount. Found out about the trans character afterward.
So, knowing all that now, do you still hate the game and everyone who plays it?
Yes.
To expand a little:
Your comment has no information I didn't already know.Oh goody, the game was free on Epic, so JKR doesn't directly get money from those copies. She still got paid by Epic, and I guarantee she's going to look at number of players who picked up the game, even on a deep discount, even for free, and take that number of players as validation of her shitty beliefs. We know she does this with money (she's said so) and I see no reason she wouldn't feel the same about number of players.
I knew about the trans character, of course I fucking did, that's all anyone would talk about when this shit-ass game came out. From what I heard from trans people at the time, Sirona Ryan wasn't really done very well, didn't make much sense in context, and just overall was a weird vibe. Not to mention, her name is Sir(ona) Ryan, which seemed to some people at the time to be a subtle way to misgender her (Sir Ryan is very much a man's name).
Now the name thing is a stretch, granted. Or, at least, it would be if we were talking about anything other than Harry Potter, where names like "Cho Chang" and "Kingsley Shacklebolt" are the norm. I won't die on the hill that the trans character's name was specifically chosen to misgender her, but I do think it's on the likely side of possible.
And none of this is getting into the incredibly antisemitic plot beats! Or the fact that our teenage protagonist kills, like, full on murders, hundreds of goblins. And the player is given the option to gleefully use the forbidden curses on enemies. And despite the shitty morals and mass-goblin-murder, the game is apparently boring as shit!
So yes, this shitty game is irredeemable. Play it if you want, I don't give a shit, but if you come into a pro-trans space like this one and say we need to "see past [our] blinding rage" and give it a shot, well, don't be surprised if you get responses telling you to fuck off with that shit.
Well, at least you're honest.
Me, I'm a bit torn. I liked the Harry Potter universe up until I heard JK Rowling was a TERF. I don't like that at all. Oh and she also randomly decided Dumbledore was gay for some reason. It felt shallow. Like who cares if he is, his sexuality never came up and doesn't matter. It's not representation, it's tokenism. My wife and I boycotted the game when it came out, but I kinda always wanted to pick up a used copy so JKR wouldn't get any money from me. Buying it at a deep discount, maybe she did, but it wouldn't have been much. And, other than being third-person, it's exactly the kind of game I like to play. (And also other than the fact that the woman who wrote the books the fictional universe is based on is such a huge pile of shit.)
It might be easier if you never liked the franchise before. But, I did. The books and movies captured my imagination. If you want a game where you can freely explore the Hogwarts castle, pick a House, and go do wizarding stuff, and you also play anything from Assassin's Creed to Skyrim, this game is pretty much the game you want to play. Yes, it sucks that the person who made the world is hot garbage, but she didn't write it. It's basically fan fiction set 100 years before her stuff.
You can take the moral high ground with LGBTQ+ safe spaces if you're in the community (judging by your pronouns tag). I'm not in it per se, I'm merely a lifelong ally. Though, I am a bit ace (outside my marriage anyway, I mean I don't feel attraction to others). Still, the + isn't one of the five letters named... whatever, it's splitting hairs. I'm just saying, same team — except, assuming you are trans (I try to assume in good faith), you have a lot more people who want to kill you or at least challenge your basic rights than I do. So, I can respect that. But I'm also not making my gaming choices up to a committee. I wait until games are on sale and I buy them cheap. I try to buy games from publishers and/or developers that are not shit, but I'm not above spending money with one if the game is fun (e.g. Mass Effect being published by EA).
I also used to like the world of Harry Potter. I've read those fucking books so many times, you wouldn't believe. I still have the first movie basically memorized, and can quote from it at length. I dressed up in a silly little costume and waited at midnight for the release of book 7. These books (and movies) were a massive part of my childhood.
Maybe it's fucked how easily I've been able to drop them, given how important they used to be to me. But truly, the world of Harry Potter is actually shit the more you look into it. The world-building is bad, the magic system doesn't actually make any sense, the final conflict of the series is so, so unsatisfying I actually disliked it the very first time I read it (although I didn't understand then why I found it so deeply unsatisfying).
I also have paid for games that I absolutely should have pirated for moral reasons. I'm thinking specifically of Sekiro, which is an Activision game.
So yeah, I don't care about you and the games you buy. You do you, it doesn't matter to me. What I care about is you coming into this space and saying that those of us who don't want to play this shit-ass game for moral reasons are blinded by rage. That if we only knew the whole story that you've so kindly laid out for us, we'd see it from your point of view and realize this game is actually worth playing. It isn't, for me and quite a few other people, and furthermore, my highly justified rage towards JKR isn't blinding, and I find it a bit insulting that you think it is.
Honestly I didn't like the books or movies past Goblet of Fire.
Oh and, I forgot to mention it before, but I had a different take on the "Sirona Ryan" name. While yours makes sense, seeing it as "Sir Ryan," I saw it as a reversal. Like maybe "Ryan Sirona" was their birth name, and rather than change it entirely, they just flipped it. That tracks with HP lore (Lord Voldemort being an anagram) and the weird naming as you mentioned. Also, Ryan isn't just a male given name, it's an Irish surname. Like Jack Ryan, the fictional character in the Tom Clancy books, or Nicky Ryan, the late producer who worked with Enya for most of her career.
But regarding something you've said twice now. "Those of us." I'm only speaking to an individual. Or are there a group of you using the account. I thought I was speaking to an individual. And, to be fair, you did kinda come in heavy, so the "blinded by rage" thing wasn't entirely inaccurate or out of line.
I don't think hating JKR is unjustified. Hate her all you want. I'm just saying, I found a way to play in the Wizarding World without the worst part of it (JKR). I'm sorry you can't enjoy it. At least there's no shortage of great games out there.
First, yes, I'm an individual, so sure,strictly speaking I can't speak for anyone other than myself. In practice, I know for a fact that my feelings and beliefs surrounding this shit-ass game are fairly common, especially among my fellow trans people. So the phrase "those of us" here means the fairly sizable group of people in the world who think this shitty game isn't worth playing, even on a deep discount, even for free. I'm obviously not the only person who feels this way.
Second, I "came in heavy" because the comment I responded to was so shit! It implied, hold on, no, outright stated that anyone who doesn't want to play the game for moral reasons is uninformed. We just don't know the whole story, we've kept ourselves in the dark about the facts on the ground because we're so mad at JKR we no longer know nor care what is true. And that implication is so, so much shittier than me being a little rude to you. You're saying that if I get visibly mad about the oppression I experience, then anything I say about that oppression can and should be disregarded, because I'm emotionally compromised, or, as you put it, "blinded by rage".
Alright, I feel you, wanting to carry the whole trans community on your back, but it's hardly fair to say that something said to you specifically was said to everyone in your group, when I'm only speaking to the individual.
Say a trans person hurt me. Should I say all trans people hurt me and try to work to have their rights taken away? It's kind of the same thing. To a different degree, sure, but even if it's worse or not as bad either way, it's still a bad path to go down.
Anyway, the game isn't oppressing you. JK Rowling has some pretty shit opinions, and she has a lot of money to back those shitty opinions. This game takes a few jabs at her and I'm a little surprised she allowed it to be made. I get that the trans community would oppose anything from JKR's creations, even if it takes steps to try to be on their side.
But still, I think being ruder to a person (let alone an ally) online, one to one, is a lot worse than what some rich person said half a world away. Yeah, it's bad, but if we take that as an excuse to be shitty to each other, what have we gained? Isn't it better to assume good faith, try to be kind to one another, show the world we're better than that? Don't settle for being less negative than JKR, don't even walk the same path. Fuck what JKR is talking about, we can be better.
Do you hear the smug, sneering tone your writing takes in every comment? My guess is that you do not, that it's totally accidental on your part. But yeah, I am not enjoying responding to you, so I'm going to stop now. Have a nice day.
And my assumption is that your negativity is entirely intentional and that you are just full of hate, but you're aware of it, and you're fine wielding your hate against those you feel are beneath you. So, you're kind of like JKR in that way, but you don't care, as long as you're the one stepping on others. You seem to see lifting others up as a potential loss to you. And that's kind of sad.
To be honest, I did enjoy replying to you, after the initial bit where you were harsh. This time, not so much, since it will be my last reply to you, unless you contact/reply to me again, in which case I will again assume good faith, unless you show me otherwise. I wish you, with no sarcasm or underhandedness intended, a good day. If yours is only beginning, as mine is, I hope it gets better.
You're assuming good faith, are you? I don't hide my rage well enough from a self-described "ally" and this means I love putting other people down? Cool. Very cool.
Anyway: Rookwood cursed Anne and Professor Fig dies at the end
Came back to this thread and had a good chuckle that you Snape killed Dumbledore'd this person
Yeah, I should have done it way, way earlier, maybe in my very first comment. This conversation was a complete waste of time from beginning to end
I saw their first response to my comment about it being funny that Hogwarts Legacy wastes players time, and thought "yeah, not going to bother with this."
On the plus side, you probably didn't waste as much time as they did with Hogwarts Legacy lmao
Ha! That's probably true and a very good point! That game seems like such crap, it's so weird that so many people spend so much time trying to get people who will never play it to play it. Very odd
Journey over destination. I remember when one of the books came out and there was a big twist at the end and it was all over the Internet. At first I was like, "well damn, now I know the ending," but then I realised, it's still a pretty thick book with loads to get through until then. Likewise, I'm still going to enjoy flying around on a broom and shooting wolves, spiders, and evil wizards with my wand for, I dunno, a couple dozen more hours. However long it is. The story was never the strongest part of any of the movies anyway, it was getting to escape into that world for a little while.
As I was playing last night, something occurred to me. I don't want to repeat the mistake of assuming I know something about the game/franchise that you don't, but I'll mention it anyway since you chose to message me again. I'm not sure if it'll help, but if you didn't want me to reply, you had the choice and opportunity to not write back, and you chose to write back. Anyway, it occurred to me that this world I'm playing in: sure, JKR wrote the books, and she came up with some names (many were borrowed from other places, she didn't "invent" most of the names; in fact, Harry Potter himself just comes from another, older character called Larry Potter), but the visuals of the world? Most of that is from the first film, which employed hundreds of people. And, sure, maybe some lighting guy didn't like the gays. Whatever. Most of the people who made that world what it was were not bigots, or at the very least, their bigotry status is unknown.
I'd tell you that two wrongs don't make a right — JKR saying that trans women are not real women, and you for hating people who play a video game or otherwise enjoy a certain media franchise — but I assume you already know that. But if that's true, you know you're not trying to make anything right. Therefore, you lack the moral high ground to say JKR is bad, let alone to fault me for playing a video game. Ergo, you are bad because you want to be. You saw the opportunity to do better, but chose to follow the same path. So, why should anybody agree with you, unless they are also out to hurt others for their own enjoyment? Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong. Or maybe you'll just look up the ending of the next game I'm playing and spoil that, too. (It's Clair Obscur: Expedition 33. But again, while I am a bit curious about the age/expedition thing, I care more about the gameplay, the art, the music, the things that add up to greater than the whole.)