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[-] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 22 points 1 year ago

You seem to think we're using "liberal" in the American mainstream political context. We are not.

This is a socialist/communist/anarchist/leftist space.

When we say "liberal" we're talking about people who support "free market"/laissez-faire capitalism, individualsm, and voting once every four years as the ultimate political action a citizen takes, etc.

In the context of the US this covers pretty much all mainstream politics, democrat and republicans (except some of the further fringes)

[-] Numuruzero@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 year ago

Well, see, there you've provided context. Perhaps it would be more obvious to an active participant in the instance but as a mere All scroller, context is often lost.

Like, I know that there was some kind of spat between the blahaj instance and this one, but to be honest I'm mostly lost to the specifics aside from the fact that two instances supporting trans rights (as far as I know) had a political difference.

[-] Tachanka@hexbear.net 14 points 1 year ago

liberalism = left wing bourgeois ideology (i.e the "center-right")

conservatism = right wing bourgeois ideology (i.e. "the right")

fascism = far right bourgeois ideology that pretends to be proletarian ideology (i.e. the "alt right")

socialism/anarchism/communism = working class proletarian ideology (i.e. the "true left")

this is why i don't care for the "left/right" distinction since it was born in the french parliament in the 1700s, and only ever pertained to the political division within the property-owning classes. In America it's especially bad since no distinction is made between anyone to the left of Ronald Reagan. To the American conservative, Joe Biden and Che Guevara might as well be the same person.