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submitted 1 year ago by 0x815@feddit.de to c/europe@feddit.de

A growing number of cases have been identified where unaccompanied children, many of whom appear to be trafficked, have been sent to HMP Elmley, Kent, and placed among foreign adult prisoners. According to the most recent inspection of Elmley, the block where foreign nationals are held also houses sex offenders.

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[-] tryptaminev@feddit.de 12 points 1 year ago

Question for people knowing the UK prison system:

Are there not juvenile facilities that cover the age range till 21 or something? It might be difficult to differentiate someone who is 17 from 19, but surely between 18 and 22 it must be possible.

[-] Hillock@kbin.social 12 points 1 year ago

They totally exist. Anyone between 15-21 can be placed in a Young Offender Institution. Anyone 18+ can be placed in an adult or young offender. And anyone over 21 has to be in an adult prison.

In this scenario they are all sent to the same prison that has a special block for "foreign prisoners". This block isn't supposed to hold certain types of prisoners, like sex offenders, but according to the article it does.

So there are lots of steps that are failing, why this is rather "shocking".

[-] tryptaminev@feddit.de 5 points 1 year ago

Thank you for clearing it up. Here in Germany it is the same thing, were people 18-21 can either be put in juvenile or adult prison, depending on how mature they are deemed to be. So this is fucked up in the UK on so many levels.

[-] barsoap@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago

Also IIRC (and as I understand) you're sorted into a prison based on your age (and maturity) at the day you're sentenced, so if you get sentenced to six years at age 17 you're going to youth prison, and stay there for your whole sentence as maximum age as per wikipedia is 24.

[-] DessertStorms@kbin.social 10 points 1 year ago

Also important, sometimes the only crime committed was seeking asylum

They don't need to be in detention at all.

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