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Admittedly I found him through his conversations with scientists I enjoyed listening to. Those days were good, they'd just have conversations about black holes and quantum physics. Then shit got absolutely out of hand and I never listened to him again.
Yeah I think what's missed is that there weren't a lot of long form podcasts like that at the time. It was great to be able to hear someone like Sean Carroll come on and talk about Spacetime for 3 hours and then have Joe convince him to start his own podcast, which is still going and really dang good. Joe served as the interested but uninformed audience to just kind of keep the person talking. Not to defend what it's become, but it wasn't always like it is now
It's too bad so many people found Joe Rogan more interesting than Stuff You Should Know, even though the latter started before Rogan. Josh and Chuck don't have whacky guests, but they talk about the coolest topics.
talked*,
after I saw that Terrance Howard one I think I lost some IQ points and all of my respect (what little was left) for Rogan.
now there's way better podcast like star talk or anything else.
people figured out his formula, anyone left listening is on the bottom of the dev curve.