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I'm an American and I'm kinda tired of hearing my countrymen apologize and say they are embarrassed. Were over a year into this and waaaay past the time to say that kinda shit. We shouldn't be embarrassed, we should feel ashamed and angry. And we shouldn't apologize, we should be actively finding ways to make a change no matter how small.
I know there are plenty of other Americans that probably lurk on communities like this so I'm mostly saying this to them. And the only reason I'm saying this is because about half the time I see other Americans apologize and say how embarassed they are it often seems like it's a way to say "see? I'm one of the good ones." None of us are the "good ones" anymore unless you are actively putting in the work. It doesn't matter if you didn't vote for him because he's still the president. People have died, continue to die, and will die in the future because of this man and he's doing all of it in our name. If Trump actually causes a global conflict with his bullshit we will not be blameless when the dust settles and our country will have to pay for this regardless of who you voted for.
It’s unbelievable difficult when they have you at the throats financially. I don’t think you fully understand this until you in the middle of it. Being the primary provider for my daughter, I have basically two options. One is to work on a way out so she can have a better life (current plan) OR to risk that she will be an orphan by actively going against the government as everyone outside of US expects. If you have your own children, take a minute to really think if you okay with your child becoming an orphan or homeless, because that’s the reality here. Even posting this risks my employment, as freedom of speech is long gone. This is just my opinion, and does not reflect the opinion of my employer.
A better life? That's where you're wrong if things won't change.
That plus what little healthcare we have is tied to employment. If I didn’t have a family I’d be more aggressive. I do have a family and will defend them if it comes to it, but aside from protesting (didn’t do shit) and bitching at my representatives I’m out of viable ideas.
I’m open to suggestions that don’t end with me or mine dead.
Organize. Stay pissed off and motivated. Do not capitulate and stay silent.
And for fuck's sake: we all need to stop buying/paying for shit that funnels money to the fuckers. It's amazing how much we spend on crap we don't actually need and that really doesn't add to our happiness.
Stop using these asshole's products. If we're so god damn weak we can't deal with a little discomfort and inconvenience we deserve no sympathy.
I think you underestimate, or refuse to recognize your internal reasoning about level of pain that will be felt. Many of us are going to die. We have to accept that there is no correction without fundamental, and violent change. You will not have a 401k after the ball gets going.
I'm talking about the unwillingness to even take even a little action now. E.g. "I can't even be fucked to cancel subscription services, write to my representatives, or attend a protest on my time off."
I'm saying that someone who can't even bother to do the bare minimum because it's slightly uncomfortable and inconvenient deserves everything they'll get -- they're useless, pathetic cowards.
This is the thing that fucking sucks. my wife recently got diagnosed with a pituitary tumor and possibly is about to be diagnosed with temporal lobe epilepsy. We've got 3 autistic kids that are varying degrees of developmentally disabled. We live off SNAP and her disability benefits and they rely on me for care.
So like, what the hell am I supposed to do here? I'm not in the greatest physical health myself, but I could be out there doing something. But if I get arrested or killed protesting this regime, who is going to take care of my family? It really feels like all I can really do is use my cameras to keep watch in my neighborhood in case ICE ever comes around here to harass my neighbors and hope that I can get enough of my neighbors together to run them off if they do.
So sorry to hear about your wife. Hoping for all the best in her recovery. I’m a firm believer you got to do what is best for your family, especially the kids.
I don’t know the answer. I think what needs to happen next will inevitably lead to great disfunction in healthcare, and many are in your position. It very much feels like they have us by the balls with a pair of scissors.
Practical recommendations on what we can be doing to create positive change in our country?
Nothing is going to be easy, but the rest if the world is looking to you, the American people, to, at least, blunt this problem as you're the only ones with the power to do so without a conflict that us likely to go global.
The poison goes deeper than just trump though. It'll take a societal level change to truly fix, so general strikes, protests, civil disobedience and such are all good, but actually just finding ways to reach the huge chunk if the electorate that doesn't seem to care about it, and bring them round to seeing the problem would make a huge difference. Talk to the disengaged folk around you, find ways to help them and gain their understanding. That way it's not just the ardent against an apparently rising tide of fascists, but a majority rising up against the evil within. Fascism wins for only as long as it can portray itself as strong. Humble it with numbers.
We need to do something, yes.
Engaging the apathetic won’t work. Changing the minds of MAGA won’t work. Using our existing system will not work.
The dollars need to burn to awaken the wrath. To do that most likely requires significant violence. Various nations hold their own leverage with US bonds. Those nations need to recognize that those bonds are junk anyway, and will be worthless.
We (humans) are all going to feel a lot of pain from this. It will not be isolated to the US. MAGA will lash out with global violence. Russia, Israel and other bad actors will use the opportunities too.
I want to act. I have been racking my little brain about how. The only organizing happening is for the traditional avenues of change. Should I be lone wolf? How do I shutdown the financial markets? I have no money. I don’t know how to hack, or make and use energetics. The levers that need to be pulled are out of my reach at the moment, but not out of the reach for some other nations. Pull the fucking levers!
You are looking at this as some massive and dramatic plot that only states can possibly influence, and will necessitate massive violence. Your last paragraph shows the inevitable conclusion of that misaprehension, you cast around for a solution you, individually, can implement, find none, and sink back into paralized inaction. Functionally, you give up. Thus is exactly what fascists require of you. Thus is how they remain strong, and prevent dissent.
The truth is, it's smaller actions that will have the real effects. If trump were to drop dead this minute, the fascism would not end. It might receed as they regroup, but has sunk deep into American life now. It is that societal malaise that is driving this, and trump and his cronies are just symptoms of it. The only way that will change is by the steady, hard, work of individuals like you reaching out to the people you can reach, helping them to see that there is a better way, and helping them embrace it. It is by building a groundswell of support like that, that the poison can be neutralized and American life brought back from the brink. In doing so, you deprive fascism of the one thing it mist needs: the appearance of strength.
You say "Engaging the apathetic won’t work" as though it us a truism, but as trump pushes further, as the economy breaks down further, as their friends, neighbours, and loved ones disappear, as life becones less tolerable, it becomes harder to ignore it all, and those who were apathetic will find themselves looking for a solution too. Leave them, and they can easily be swept up by those offering the illusion of strength and power. Instead you, and people like you, need to be talking to them, pkanting the seeds of doubt in their minds, showing them that this is all a sham, that there is a better way. Build support, and support each other. As the numbers grow it will become less and less comfortable for those who support fascism to express that in public. This is going to be rough, but it doesn't have to be cataclysmic.
American fascism will fall, of that I am certain. The only questions are when, and how much damage it does in falling. If enough of the American public can find common cause and work together they can bring that moment forward, and minimise the damage. Fail to do so, and there might not be anything recognisable left afterwards.
Can you please point me to some knowledge about how often just getting the common class to be on the same page lifted them out of oppression? When has fascism ever been so easily squashed?
We have been trying to reach the apathetic for many years now. Most won’t be moved until they feel pain. Everyone’s retirement is dependent on the status quo. People will wake to action when they now have no comfortable future. I feel so crazy and depressed after trying reason with these folks for a near decade now. I think most would remain docile fucks no matter what happens to others. They need to feel the pain personally. Strip them of their retirement and healthcare.
I know this won’t go away with his death. We need to gut the wealthy. Special attention to all the top player’s family trees. Uproot them, and burn every leaf. Their wealth should have no person, or institution, alive to use it. Burn down their estates. Scuttle their yachts. Destroy every place of posh pleasure. This action needs to happen worldwide too