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[–] derry@midwest.social 8 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Practical recommendations on what we can be doing to create positive change in our country?

[–] notabot@piefed.social 7 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Nothing is going to be easy, but the rest if the world is looking to you, the American people, to, at least, blunt this problem as you're the only ones with the power to do so without a conflict that us likely to go global.

The poison goes deeper than just trump though. It'll take a societal level change to truly fix, so general strikes, protests, civil disobedience and such are all good, but actually just finding ways to reach the huge chunk if the electorate that doesn't seem to care about it, and bring them round to seeing the problem would make a huge difference. Talk to the disengaged folk around you, find ways to help them and gain their understanding. That way it's not just the ardent against an apparently rising tide of fascists, but a majority rising up against the evil within. Fascism wins for only as long as it can portray itself as strong. Humble it with numbers.

[–] itistime@infosec.pub 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

We need to do something, yes.

Engaging the apathetic won’t work. Changing the minds of MAGA won’t work. Using our existing system will not work.

The dollars need to burn to awaken the wrath. To do that most likely requires significant violence. Various nations hold their own leverage with US bonds. Those nations need to recognize that those bonds are junk anyway, and will be worthless.

We (humans) are all going to feel a lot of pain from this. It will not be isolated to the US. MAGA will lash out with global violence. Russia, Israel and other bad actors will use the opportunities too.

I want to act. I have been racking my little brain about how. The only organizing happening is for the traditional avenues of change. Should I be lone wolf? How do I shutdown the financial markets? I have no money. I don’t know how to hack, or make and use energetics. The levers that need to be pulled are out of my reach at the moment, but not out of the reach for some other nations. Pull the fucking levers!

[–] notabot@piefed.social 1 points 5 days ago (2 children)

You are looking at this as some massive and dramatic plot that only states can possibly influence, and will necessitate massive violence. Your last paragraph shows the inevitable conclusion of that misaprehension, you cast around for a solution you, individually, can implement, find none, and sink back into paralized inaction. Functionally, you give up. Thus is exactly what fascists require of you. Thus is how they remain strong, and prevent dissent.

The truth is, it's smaller actions that will have the real effects. If trump were to drop dead this minute, the fascism would not end. It might receed as they regroup, but has sunk deep into American life now. It is that societal malaise that is driving this, and trump and his cronies are just symptoms of it. The only way that will change is by the steady, hard, work of individuals like you reaching out to the people you can reach, helping them to see that there is a better way, and helping them embrace it. It is by building a groundswell of support like that, that the poison can be neutralized and American life brought back from the brink. In doing so, you deprive fascism of the one thing it mist needs: the appearance of strength.

You say "Engaging the apathetic won’t work" as though it us a truism, but as trump pushes further, as the economy breaks down further, as their friends, neighbours, and loved ones disappear, as life becones less tolerable, it becomes harder to ignore it all, and those who were apathetic will find themselves looking for a solution too. Leave them, and they can easily be swept up by those offering the illusion of strength and power. Instead you, and people like you, need to be talking to them, pkanting the seeds of doubt in their minds, showing them that this is all a sham, that there is a better way. Build support, and support each other. As the numbers grow it will become less and less comfortable for those who support fascism to express that in public. This is going to be rough, but it doesn't have to be cataclysmic.

American fascism will fall, of that I am certain. The only questions are when, and how much damage it does in falling. If enough of the American public can find common cause and work together they can bring that moment forward, and minimise the damage. Fail to do so, and there might not be anything recognisable left afterwards.

[–] itistime@infosec.pub 1 points 4 days ago

Can you please point me to some knowledge about how often just getting the common class to be on the same page lifted them out of oppression? When has fascism ever been so easily squashed?

[–] itistime@infosec.pub 1 points 4 days ago

We have been trying to reach the apathetic for many years now. Most won’t be moved until they feel pain. Everyone’s retirement is dependent on the status quo. People will wake to action when they now have no comfortable future. I feel so crazy and depressed after trying reason with these folks for a near decade now. I think most would remain docile fucks no matter what happens to others. They need to feel the pain personally. Strip them of their retirement and healthcare.

I know this won’t go away with his death. We need to gut the wealthy. Special attention to all the top player’s family trees. Uproot them, and burn every leaf. Their wealth should have no person, or institution, alive to use it. Burn down their estates. Scuttle their yachts. Destroy every place of posh pleasure. This action needs to happen worldwide too