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Stand up and fight for Raytheon already!
The alternative is living in Russia and fighting for Gazprom
The alternative was not expanding NATO's sphere, not couping Ukraine, not creating the circumstances for a preemptive Russian strike before yet another country gets globbled up America and its goons (imagine if Iran had the capacity to strike Israel before all the American strikes done thanks to their regional goon and possibly a future one took place...), but that's not how it went. We shall see how it evolves.
how people can actually believe shit like is will never not baffle me... it has to be satire, right?
Nah, it's not satire, it's just brainwashing.
I feel like I'm taking crazy pills!
NATO didn't annex anyone, countries ask to join. Like Sweden and Finland did after Russia's imperialist actions got a little too close.
Well, Russia already gained two more NATO neighbors thanks to your aggression, so I wouldn't exactly call it a roaring success so far.
Yes, just put the countries who wanted protection from Russia, after centuries of enduring russian imperialism back in their sphere of influence. That will make everyone happy! Fuck. Off.
Would rather die for Raytheon than have my country be under the Russian sphere of influence again
Nah, better let ourselves be ruled by some sad nazi wannabees, instead of fighting, right?
In case you haven't noticed: weapons producers are the worst, because they'll happily sell to your enemies. And in case you haven't noticed: we got enemies coming out of the whazoo, at this point. So you can bitch all you want about weapons manufacturers, but you'll be standing in line with them soon enough when the fascists come knocking
SELLING WEAPON MAKE LINE GO UP AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Everytime conscription Zelensky speaks he's saying nice things about Trump, and then Russia attacks because praising Trump shows weakness. And yet he avoids any criticism by the left like goddamn magic or something.
This has strong "look what you made me do" abuser energy.
Russia is attacking because they're in an imperialist war against ukraine, not because of Zelensky
I’m not saying "look what you made him do." I am saying that geopolitics relies on strength and perception. When Zelenskyy praises Trump—a man who openly bullies him and has been engaging in invasions himself—it projects weakness, not strength. That weakness emboldens aggressors like Putin. By praising Trump—the same person who kidnapped the President of Venezuela, bombed Nigeria, Iran & has threatened taking Greenland—Zelensky is praising someone engaging in the same behavior as Putin.
Furthermore, pointing out that Zelenskyy is willing to legitimize Trump’s behavior to keep the cash flowing is a valid critique of his character. It’s strange that the same people who (rightfully) criticize Trump for his authoritarianism turn a blind eye when Zelenskyy feeds Trump’s ego just to keep a proxy war going that is costing American citizens billions and costing Ukrainian citizens their lives via forced conscription.
I think Russia attacks because that's how a war works?
War isn't just physical combat, it’s psychological and political. Momentum matters. My argument is that praising an erratic leader like Trump, who openly disrespects Ukraine, signals to Russia that Ukraine’s backing is fragile.
Beyond that, "how war works" right now involves American tax dollars fueling a conflict that includes forced conscription of people who don't want to fight. I don’t think it’s unreasonable to question the strategy of a leader who is praising the very people attacking American democratic norms, all while demanding American financial support.