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Multiple Republican presidential candidates made it clear at this week’s debate that the Department of Education is in danger if they are elected.

“Let’s shut down the head of the snake, the Department of Education,” Vivek Ramaswamy said. “Take that $80 billion, put it in the hands of parents across this country.”

Conservatives see the department, which has more than 4,400 employees and in its current form dates back to 1979 after first being established in 1867, as a prime example of Washington’s meddling in Americans’ lives. The time has come to “shut down the Federal Department of Education,” former Vice President Mike Pence said Wednesday.

But what would it mean to actually shutter the massive agency?

How could the department be eliminated?

Killing the Department of Education (DOE) would be easier said than done.

Conservatives have said since the creation of the department they want to get rid of it. From President Ronald Reagan and his Education secretary to President Trump and his own, Republicans have decried the department’s existence but failed to abolish it.

That is because the decision to do so is not only up to the president and would have to go through Congress.

“There would have to be some legislation to specifically outline this, but I do think it would need to have the support of the executive branch and, obviously, this is a Cabinet-level agency, so I think having the president — would have to take a leadership role and help to make sure that the proposal is carefully crafted,” said Jonathan Butcher, the Will Skillman senior research fellow in education policy at The Heritage Foundation, which supports nixing the DOE.

Rep. Thomas Massie (R-Ky.) proposed such legislation in 2021 and reintroduced it earlier this year.

“Unelected bureaucrats in Washington, D.C., should not be in charge of our children’s intellectual and moral development,” Massie said two years ago. “States and local communities are best positioned to shape curricula that meet the needs of their students. Schools should be accountable. Parents have the right to choose the most appropriate educational opportunity for their children, including home school, public school or private school.”

DOE did not respond to The Hill’s request for comment.

DOE’s duties would be absorbed by other federal agencies

DOE has an enormous number of responsibilities, including handling student loans, investigating complaints against schools and tracking education progress across the country.

None of the 2024 candidates during Wednesday’s debate detailed how they would handle eliminating it, but conservatives have longed to see many of its tasks either completely eliminated or absorbed into other departments.

“For example, the Office of Civil Rights at the Department of Education. I think that any duplicate responsibilities that it shares with the Department of Justice should be eliminated, and then the rest of that office should go to the Department of Justice,” Butcher said.

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[-] bamfic@lemmy.world 27 points 11 months ago

I was in Junior High when Pink Floyd's The Wall came out.

Some dipshit scrawled 'WE DON'T NEED NO EDUCTION" on a desk in the library. Spelled like that.

I wrote under it "Yes, you do.",

[-] AA5B@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago

It is a cool song that still brings chills today. Perhaps you should listen to the point that song is trying to get across before disparaging a tribute.

Then again, i imagine it’s like “Born in the USA” or “The Punisher” that somehow becomes an anthem for the exact opposite of intended meaning

[-] AeroLemming@lemm.ee 0 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Correct me if I'm wrong, but don't you need a comma before the beginning of the quote?

I wrote under it, "Yes, you do."

[-] FehrIsFair@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago

Sometimes putting a comma can give it an intonation. In this case given the comment about education being spelled wrong, having a comma after Yes gives a very sassy/mocking vibe.

[-] dotMonkey@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago

He was actually asking if there should be a comma before the quote, not in it.

[-] KIM_JONG_JUICEBOX@lemmy.ml 0 points 11 months ago

And I don’t think there should be.

[-] AeroLemming@lemm.ee 2 points 11 months ago
[-] SCB@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago

Because he needs more EDUCTION

[-] AeroLemming@lemm.ee 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I suppose he does. Idk why my original comment got downvoted so much, I was just trying to be funny by pointing out a grammatical error in a message about correcting someone else's spelling and grammar.

[-] SCB@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago
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