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And who are the national guard going to be guarding here?
Asking the important questions
Whoever they are ordered to, they don't get to decide. And history is shown repeatedly that the united states president always wins when in legal battle with a governor starts.
Like they give a fuck about the law.
I mean the systems they are using mostly do, so the law is still important.
The hierarchy means little if the common soldiers agree and band together. They're the ones with the guns.
True.... but armies are deliberately built so that soldiers are trained, conditioned, and drilled to follow orders, especially when they’re carrying weapons that can kill. That culture is completely different from normal civilian psychology.
It’s like asking a group of kids to band together and kill their grandpa. Technically, yes, anything is possible, but that’s not how a normal human brain is wired to behave.
You need a whole institution, a hierarchy, training, pressure, and a command structure to override that basic instinct. Without that, people don’t naturally just organize themselves to commit violence on command.
Not the soldiers, their commanders. Soldiers won't be able to coordinate much beyond the scope of their platoon, maybe across a company. A rogue force of company size does not a rebellion make.
So unless a battalion command gets together and decides to rebel, it'll be on too small of a scale to make anything but a tactical difference. And the soldiers knows this, and they know that they'll be severely punished. I don't know the Minnesota national guard laws and regulations, but I suspect that soldiers helping ICE kill Minnesotans, could be facing a firing squad or the gallows.
So no, I wouldn't be afraid of having the national guard protect Minnesotans under the command of Tim Waltz, who himself was a command sergeant major in the army national guard.
What would be scary would be having the national guard federalised, something we've seen Trump do with the same enthusiasm as raping 12 year olds. And if army commanders goes against Trump, then there'd be a real civil war, when national guard units from the Dakotas, Iowa and Michigan are federalised.