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The rest of the world has no room to fucking talk. People in glass houses and all that.
This really has become the go to excuse for Americans, hasn't it? They can no longer pretend they're not doing terrible things, do they move down the list of justifications to "well I'm sure everyone else is doing it too"
I'm sorry, I couldn't hear you over all that freedom and democracy. Or was that gunfire? It's sometimes hard to distinguish the two.
Idk. I just feel like making fun of the victims of fascism to be in poor taste 🤷🏻
Fascism is very much the natural end state of ultra-nationalism.
A lot of those "victims" in America were fine with the culture of flag shagging leading to this.
(All it takes is to look at American interventions abroad to see that pretty much the entirety of the American political class and broader elites were absolutelly fine with Fascism as long as its effects stayed abroad, and those people were definitelly supported by most Americans, at last as long as there weren't many coffins with Americans returning home - the other poster is totally correct in being angry at this).
And don't get me started on how a huge slice of the American middle-class was alright with the total crash of social mobility since the 70s and explosion of inequality as long as they "got theirs" - the bottom of the country was falling but, hey, "I'm alright Jack".
Mind you, this is the Progressive Politics forum so hopefully there are actually more people here who have long been aware and cared about "the greatest good for the greatest number" than elsewhere (so, leftwingers in the true sense) who are the only ones IMHO that haven't been part of at least tilling and fertilizing the political field were American Fascism grew, and who are the only real vitims.
The rest were more like colaborators, or at least the kind of people the "First they came" poem talks about.
Perhaps. The majority cheered them on when when they freedoming and democratizing the rest of the world with the most obnoxious displays of patriotism and hypocrisy.
Now those same forces have turned inward and the victims are mostly people who failed to prevent this and are still failing to rise to the occasion. I don't want them to feel comforted because they are victims. I want them goaded into fixing their shit.
So you have no clue what's going on here. The majority have been against all this shit for decades. Shut the fuck up
That's not remotely true; brutality against the global South has been bipartisan American tradition for a long time
I don't care how you feel. Your moral position is as important as a butterfly's fart in a hurricane.
I care that you act and act effectively. I'm not seeing it. For decades your collective thumbs have been up your asses and you're losing very badly. Save your anger for your real enemies. Fix your shit.