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[–] cosmosaucer@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

how does one approach ostensible commies/comrades doing the whole #freeiran bullshit, in the Netherlands a bunch of "pro-Palestine" orgs are outing themselves as zionist by either expressing support for "Iranian protesters" or doing a "both sides" thing where they say "fuck both the regime and the US" (whatever that means??)

should i still go to events even if the organizers parrot that imperialist bs, should one discuss it wherever possible, voice it until i get kicked out, etc

or should one boycott them and just involve oneself with the extremely few anti-imperialist orgs still present

[–] cfgaussian@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

The next best thing for the State Department, if they can't get leftists to outright support imperialist intervention and regime change, is to get you to "both-sides" it.

They don't need to get you to support imperialism if they can, for all practical intents and purposes, simply neutralize your opposition to imperialism.

There is absolutely no comparison between a global empire and a state defending itself from imperialist aggression and nefarious regime change operations.

If Iran's government is toppled it will be subjugated again to the interests of imperialism as it was under the Shah, its resources extracted for Western profits.

How did the regime change in Syria turn out? How did it turn out in Libya? Are the people there better off now?

There is only so often that we can tolerate imperial core so-called leftists to fall for the same trick over and over again before we have to admit that maybe they're not being tricked.

Maybe they are siding with empire over the victims of empire because it validates their chauvinism and advances their material interests.