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[–] cynar@lemmy.world 27 points 1 day ago (3 children)

The key is that it should remain fully functional, even when lobotomised.

Kill WiFi, alongside ZigBee and Z-Wave coordinators and all core functionality should remain.

[–] Damage@feddit.it 17 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

That's what my house does. If I kill the internet, automations still work, as well as the interface via LAN (I've got hairpin NAT set up to make this easier than having 2 addresses in the app), if I kill Home Assistant, all devices still function manually.
I favor ZigBee to WiFi smart devices, although the polluted spectrum in my area gives me some headaches. With WiFi devices when possible I buy premade stuff (so that it's CE compliant), and flash ESPHome on them, or similar.

[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 1 points 23 hours ago

Yeah, wifi is a crapshoot as to whether it might expect a cloud connection, so I have to research those devices carefully. I'm satisfied with my OpenGarage being on Wifi because I know it has no internet aspirations. I hope that Matter over Wifi devices are similarly local friendly, but I haven't actually had anything to buy since that was an option.

[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 2 points 23 hours ago

Indeed, nice and layered.

If internet, wifi, internet, and zigbee/thread/zwave up, fully functional, can close my garage door from miles away

If internet is down, then everything still works within wifi range.

If local connectivity is down, well, all the local controls still work almost the same as a non-smart (the 'on/off' switches sit in the middle instead of being 'on' or 'off' since physical and logical state could otherwise disagree, but switch down to off, switch up to on still works).

[–] abbadon420@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I'm oretty certain there is not a single printer on the consumer market these days that works without wifi.

[–] eatham@aussie.zone 1 points 10 hours ago

If you have a USB b cable you can connect it to most printers and it should work

[–] lost_faith@lemmy.ca 13 points 1 day ago

Try Brother, set 2 up in the last month, both USB connections

[–] cynar@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

While I use it on WiFi, I'm fairly sure my brother laser printer has a USB connector.