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[–] Emmet@midwest.social -1 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] madjo@piefed.social 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] Emmet@midwest.social 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

"There is only one party in the United States, the Property Party … and it has two right wings: Republican and Democrat. Republicans are a bit stupider, more rigid, more doctrinaire in their laissez-faire capitalism than the Democrats, who are cuter, prettier, a bit more corrupt — until recently … and more willing than the Republicans to make small adjustments when the poor, the black, the anti-imperialists get out of hand. But, essentially, there is no difference between the two parties."

Gore Vidal


Mamdani ain't doing shit. And I think you'll increasingly see the center-right Dems start to hamstring him. We've already seen Minnesota Dems distance themselves from Minnesota DSA. It's happening now.

Who was the second most neoliberal president in history, behind only Ronald Reagan? Scoreboard says: CLINTON! (Who was the third? Scoreboard says CARTER! who also participated in anti left-wing action like the East Timor Genocide.)

In fact, the problem is only reflected by Mamdani's victory. How long did it take establishment Dems to support him?


Here's another exercise in Democrat corruption since we're all aware of the right-wing/Third Way/neoliberal pivot. From a person who you haven't heard from. Let's make it as explicit as possible:

"Due to a coalition of the Democratic Party, Republican Party, General Motors Corporation and Charles S. Mott in the so-called Independent Citizen's Party, Menton was decisively defeated in the 1912 election, never to serve again."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_A._C._Menton


The Democrats have been working with business and Republicans ✨for-fucking-ever✨, my friend. Even if you do shit like run the schools at night so auto workers can still get an education, clean up a dirty dairy, appoint a black man as chief of police (in 1911-1912!), and advocate for better conditions for workers, the Democrats will still snow you the fuck under.

I like this example because it's the literal president of one of the most anti-worker companies ever (GM before the UAW), coming together to conspire against those very workers with the "legacy" parties (Menton was in the Socialist Party). The local paper even helped in the conspiracy if you need a cognate for what the media is currently doing.

(Speaking of Democrat media, I LOVE to watch this to remind myself of where they stand: https://youtu.be/gZ43aTu9Grg)


I hope you're young. Because you seem naive.

[–] SparroHawc@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Ah, but the thing you're missing is that the more Mamdanis get elected, the more pressure there will be within the Democratic party to change.

[–] Emmet@midwest.social 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I'm saying that that does not matter. You can elect all of the people you want to mayoralities etc, but the undergirding property relations will make 1/2 of the party align with the Republicans every single time.

Electoralism is a dead end. By all means, vote. I do. But it's wholly insufficient and will actually work against us.

That's the bigger lesson. It's not minimizing harm. It's minimizing the active damage done by the two right wing parties.

*I'm still learning about the fediverse, and this is probably a more liberal instance, so I just really want to hammer these points home:

https://act.represent.us/sign/problempoll-fba