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I just headed over to .ml and did a local search for "mamdani"
I see a bunch of the more conservatives Democrats and their supporters complaining about him and conservatives of all stripes are really hoping he'll fail.
I've been called a tankie several times and I rather like Mamdani. I see him, AOC, and Sanders as the best hope for the future of the US.
Where are these tankies that hate Mamdani so much? What do they hate him for?
They don't.
There's two main criticisms of Zohran that come from the left.
One is that while good, his victory is going to be limited because the mayor has little power to enact systematic change. The keeping of Tisch (likely to avoid a war with Hochul he can't win) is a point for this
The second is that it reinforces the Democratic party which actively opposes socialism, by giving it a face of that. And that in that way it also serves to dilute actual revolutionary energy, etc.
You don't have to agree with those arguments - I don't fully. But those are them. But considering the person here is hitting a shitlib trifecta - screaming about tankies and horseshoe theory, conspiracy theories about Russian bots, and claiming "nuance" when caught in obvious contradictions - theyre not going to make an actual argument. Just claim ownership of the left for the center, again.
What's a "tankie"?
Authoritarian-Communist.
Named after the mostly Marxist-Leninist leftists who supported the Soviets brutality in the Hungarian Revolution of 1956, when they sent into tanks to kill the student democratic uprising.
Used by non-auth leftists for decades, past few years some centrists and rightists have started using it for anything left that they don't like as calling everyone communists wasn't working any more. These days it generally means anyone who supports China, Russia, blames Ukraine, etc.
The irony of the use in respect to Ukraine is that they're calling anyone not wanting to send tanks a tankie.
That's not ironic, because they're not calling for the tanks to crush innocent people but to stop imperialist invaders.
As long as someone else gets drafted to die in the trenches, right?
You're either disingenuous or beyond naive about ethnic and nationalistic conflict.
How about Russia doesn't invade Ukraine and no one has to get fucking drafted.
Tankies love imperialism, it's sickening how willing you are to throw innocent lives away.
Yeah, I'm not a tankie, my little chickenhawk. Just an actual communist who understands "no war but class war". But I guess cheering on more troops into the grinder seems fine to you from far away.
Živio Tito, smrt fašizmu, sloboda narodu, i jebem ti majku.
Good than you understand lending critical support to the people of Ukraine in their valiant struggle against Russian imperialism.
It’s laughable how some people say Ukraine should not be defended, but never say Russia should stop invading.
You're not giving critical support to the people. You're giving it to the government.
You want to go support that war, they're looking for volunteers, my little chickenhawk. Why don't you go relieve a conscript, since you think the struggle is so important?
Such a tankie.
Tell me genius, what would happen to the people if they do not resist Russia? A country who is literally engaged in genocide against them.
You do not give a shit about the people of Ukraine, you are a reactionary chud who would see them die rather than support them fighting because America bad.
So, you're not heading out the help them then, my little chickenhawk? You claiming it's genocide makes your cowardice worse, not better.
Easy enough to decide the territorial integrity of Ukraine is worth other people being conscripted to die from your couch, I guess.
As for your name calling, it's pretty funny to call a Titoist a tankie, while you take sides in ethnic conflicts. But I'm sure the history is wasted on you.
The US is bad, my little "anarchist". Maybe you should focus more on the genocides and imperialism your taxes are paying for .
What are you doing to help them tankie?
You actively harm them by saying others shouldn’t fight, and don't do a single thing to help. You are pure scum.
Awwww look, the little chickenhawk is getting mad!
Better watch out, or he'll get a conscript to come fight me!
Seriously, you're a piece of shit and a coward, and you know it. Go fuck yourself.
You are doing worse than nothing to help them, you are actively working against their defence in the face of genocide.
Do not think for a second that your pathetic moralism is what is annoying me, it’s your complete disregard for human life. You cowardly say “no war but class war” while civilians face death and destruction from Russian bombs. You are not on the side of the proletariat, you are advancing the interests of the bourgeoisie. You are an enemy of the innocent people who are dying because Putin wants to be a conquerer.
Yeah I'm not searching that term either
I have seen a few, here is one I saved from some time back.
https://lemmy.ml/post/39249375
A lot of things get removed from
.mlso its hard to go back find things sometimes. If you are around lemmy a while you will find quite a few takes from tankies.Perhaps in light of your recent post here, https://lemmy.world/post/42467256, you may stop to reconsider your comments about tankies.
Why should I? Tankies at the end of the day are counter productive to organizing and simp for authoritarians.
🤣 zero (intentional) irony. Not you, you couldn't possibly be taken by a CIA psyop!
Consider this: if that's true, why does the West take in Nazis and brutally crush AES? Perhaps you could actually dig into what Operation Gladio and Operation Condor did.
Anyone can, we are all people.
Still, tankies are simps for authoritarians. Further they discourage electoralism which is a big form of organizing here in the west. I've said it before, elections are not the end all be all, but it is a mistake to neglect them as they do add credibility to our movements and shifts the overton window to our favor. If anything tankies are the best form of the left that J Edgar Hoover would have wanted for us; unwilling to enage and toxic.
Anyway, that is a summary of why I don't think tankies are worth much time. Unless you have something worth talking about Im not going to engage further.
Like this, two things can be wrong at the same time. Tankies have a hard time understanding that.
And what are Western socialists doing to discourage or stop this authoritarianism that works, or is that reserved for states in the global South?
I've never seen that. I've seen it mocked and knows from forty years' personal experience voting here in the USA, the only thing it's done is move us further right. But sure, tankies are the problem. Btw, remind me again why Dems only sued in swing states to keep Claudia De La Cruz off the ballot?
https://boards.straightdope.com/t/examples-of-the-rotating-villain-tactic-that-the-democratic-party-uses-to-avoid-passing-bills/1027061
https://stopmebeforeivoteagain.org/stopme/chapter02.html
Idk im not a dem. We could have our own party in many places, and it would be helpful if tankie types stop disparaging our attempts to organize and support us where they can instead.
That said in places where we won't have a party we should strategically vote as left as possible in primaries not just final elections.
So yeah, tankies are part of the problem.
Well whatever you do, don't dive deep into Operations Gladio and Condor.
Idk, the post calls him infiltrator but there is -54 likes. It just looks like general .ml likes Mamdani.
Also if they are removing the posts and comments against him, doesn't that mean he is liked over there?
So I had a look at the voting score and only 5 of those down votes came from .ml, most are from .world accounts.
Hard to say, I have seen a few that outright don't like him. But more of a he isn't as far to our liking overall.
Oooh, I'd love to see what stupid shit they are complaining about.
"Oh no! We are going to have healthcare again! Stop him!"
something something he kept a "genocide supporter" on his cabinet
note, the biggest compliant about him from the other side is that he has too many pro-palestinians in his cabinet