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We need a followup to Idiocracy (lemmy.ml)

submitted 2 weeks ago by anotherspinelessdem@lemmy.ml to c/chapotraphouse@hexbear.net

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Turns out, it was just the USA. Almost everyone else is communist and in space with satellites pointed at the US and laughing. They originally couldn't do anything to fix the States because of the nukes and nuclear capitalism just kept rewarding the most inbred failsons in an endless cycle like the royal families, but they disabled the nukes decades ago and isolated the States, leaving a constant horrific reminder of the inevitable results of capitalism (amid a longstanding debate about socialist self-determination).

The rise of president Notsure then gave them a sociological experiment and data too good to pass up, and the field of Sociology is having a resurgence it hasn't had in years.

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[–] fort_burp@feddit.nl 0 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

No, it's not. Eugenics is using selective breeding and/or forced sterilization to produce a human population with specific traits.

[–] volcel_olive_oil@hexbear.net 8 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Idiocracy essentially makes the argument that we should use selective breeding and/or forced sterilization to produce a human population with specific (liberal intelligentsia) traits

[–] fort_burp@feddit.nl 1 points 1 week ago

Really? That must have gone totally over my head. Huh. Well, it's been 20 years lol. I don't remember there being any policy suggestions in the movie.

[–] LENINSGHOSTFACEKILLA@hexbear.net 8 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Yes, and in the movie "smart" is a specific trait that is only influenced by your parents. It might not be arguing for a eugenics program, but it is saying that underlying idea of eugenics is correct, when it is not.

[–] fort_burp@feddit.nl 2 points 1 week ago

only influenced by your parents

Huh? I didn't get that from the movie. There was also the cultural aspect of anti-intellectualism where people displaying any hint of intelligence are abused, physically and/or verbally, which cultivates further anti-intellectualism. Also in the intro scene the 2 groups juxtaposed were one that live in a trailer park (symbolizing the poors) and one that live in a mansion (symbolizing the wealthy). The movie takes place in the US so we know access is drawn exactly along those lines. I saw it as more of a materialistic framing, and backed by the well established relationship between education and birth rate, but I guess that's art, right? People walk away with different ideas after seeing the same thing.

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Eugenics is the policy proscription for dysgenics, which is what Idiocracy is about.

[–] fort_burp@feddit.nl 1 points 1 week ago

Yea, eugenics is intentional and human-directed. My recollection is that Idiocracy didn't have that aspect, but it's been over 20 years so I might be wrong.