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[–] cikano@lemmy.world 111 points 4 days ago (61 children)

I'm surprised so many people are running defence for landlords in the comments

[–] hobovision@mander.xyz 35 points 4 days ago (7 children)

Look I'll be honest, as a renter, I've not heard a realistic alternative that I like better. Do I think landlords should be better regulated? For sure. Do I think housing should be a right, and free, high quality housing should be available everywhere to anyone who wants it? Yes, please!

I like the option to rent a place that's even better than what the baseline option would be. I like that I can move around as I need to. I like that I can get a bigger, better, or just different, place when I have the funds. I like that I never have to deal with broken appliances or roof repairs and get to pick the type of place I want to live in.

[–] SoleInvictus@lemmy.blahaj.zone 21 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (4 children)

Do it 1970s style. You own a home but pay less than half of what you do now. The extra savings go toward home maintenance and lifestyle improvement. You gain equity over time and actually get something for what you paid instead of lining someone else's pockets.

[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago (6 children)

It really depends on how often he is really using that "I want to move" option.

Various fees associated with the purchase of a houae will blow away likely equity gains over a year or two. Over a short time period housing can actually go down, and you sell for less than you paid. Selling the house is a potential exposure that may leave you stuck for months with it, and if you needed to immediately move, you have to own two properties and the associated taxes, insurance, and likely loan payment. If you had to borrow and moved within a year. The interest owed probably outpaced your theoretical equity gains.

So if you are only staying in one place for say 4 years or less, renting may actually make sense. If you are planning longer than that, purchasing almost always makes more sense.

[–] brbposting@sh.itjust.works 5 points 3 days ago

The time cost, too. Huge hassle to buy, move, sell. Inspections, agents, viewings… big pressure end to end.

purchasing almost always makes more sense.

I remember the San Francisco Bay Area threw this old truism off when purchasing became so expensive, it was just about a wash whether you wanted to rent or buy.

These tiny little homes starting at a million bucks or something…

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[–] Rivalarrival@lemmy.today 7 points 3 days ago

I like the option to rent a place that's even better than what the baseline option would be. I like that I can move around as I need to. I like that I can get a bigger, better, or just different, place when I have the funds. I like that I never have to deal with broken appliances or roof repairs and get to pick the type of place I want to live in.

You are describing either a "land contract" or a "condominium". With either, you gain equity in the property.

[–] Quadhammer@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago

Paying half if not more of your monthly salary for a shitty place to live is horse shit

[–] LadyAutumn@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 4 days ago (36 children)

Why would you prefer a landlord to just you save that money yourself? Like at best its probably a third of your income if youre working class? At worst its probably 60% or more. If you're on any kind of social assistance rent is probably almost all of your income. Hurray! No food for you mister, the poor landlord needs that pittance you receive.

You would have effectively 133%-180% of the income you do now. For me that's an increase of over a thousand dollars a month. I could afford all the appliances and roof repairs in the world with that kind of money. I would still walk away with so much extra money its a joke. You have been entirely misled about how much rent takes out of your income. They will steal hundreds of thousands of dollars from you over your life time, maybe even more depending on what you pay.

Renting exists because renters cannot advocate for themselves. It exists because people who become land owners escape the renting class and pretty much immediately turn their backs on it. No longer their problem. Because propaganda has taught them to not have solidarity with their fellow workers. Homelessness is an entirely preventable issue and is inseparable from the problem of landlords.

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[–] return2ozma@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago

Vienna social housing model is what we need. Nearly 60% lives in public housing there.

https://youtu.be/MxuACFQBwxs

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[–] lobut@lemmy.ca 24 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (5 children)

A lot of these people are likely tech folks. A lot of tech folks get high paying jobs. They used that pay to buy rental property.

A lot of these guys are landlords and are trying to convince people that the rent they charge is fair, market rate, and a favour because they're taking on "risk" while you pay for their mortgage.

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[–] PM_ME_VINTAGE_30S 20 points 4 days ago (10 children)

I'm not lol. .world is basically Reddit 2.0, warts and capitalists included 😆

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